THE INNER ROOM - "Learn and Grow - to Maturity". Please read the OP. - Page 95

Fluffy · 06-11-2008, 07:35 PM

Bondman · 06-12-2008, 04:36 PM

Message #92

WOULDN'T WE WANT TO BE OBEDIENT?

Got a surprise as I was reading this morning: came across a verse in Acts 5 that I don't remember seeing before. The apostles had been put in prison - again!- but the angel of the Lord opened the prison doors and let them out, telling them go and preach Jesus again, which they did. After finding the prisoners gone, the high priest and the chief priests sent to have them arrested once more! They were brought before the council and the high priest was MOST annoyed with them again for continuing to preach Jesus to the people.

The response of Peter and the apostles was pretty predictable: they preached JESUS to the council members!! (there was no shutting these guys up!) In the process of the message they spoke these words: "And we are witnesses to these things, and the Holy Spirit is also, Who God has given TO THOSE WHO OBEY HIM."

Wow... that surprised me! Yet, if you stop to think about it, our obedience starts even at the moment we come to Jesus for salvation!! We have to OBEY the following instructions (commands) from the Lord God in order to get saved! - CONFESS our sinfulness, REPENT of our sin, ACKNOWLEDGE that Jesus died for our sins, RECEIVE Him as Saviour and Lord over all of our life (give our whole life to Him), and be BAPTISED in Jesus' Name. Without obeying these things we stay in our sins, destination: HELL!!

After I thought that through, it seemed ABSOLUTELY REASONABLE for the apostles to say that the GIFT of the Holy Spirit comes to those WHO OBEY HIM! So does that mean that the gift has a CONDITION - that of being OBEDIENT to the LORD? I reckon it does! Because in the New Testament the concept of OBEDIENCE is a 'given' for all genuine Christians. It's the NORM!! IF YOU LOVE GOD, THEN YOU WILL AUTOMATICALLY WANT TO OBEY HIM!! So much so that if you're not an obedient Christian, I'd lovingly but strongly suggest you check that you ARE a Christian! Can't mess about with this, folks - hell is an APPALLING place, and it IS FOREVER... Here's God's WARNING:

Romans Ch 6:16 Do you not know that to who you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves who you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?

Let's all choose the way of OBEDIENCE to our wonderful GOD!!

- BM, with his Mrs

TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY
FOR EVER AND EVER! AMEN!

Bondman · 06-12-2008, 04:46 PM

I've gotten extra ill again, guys!

And for the very first time since I started ministry on forums, the Holy Spirit is now not giving me enough EXTRA energy (which I have to have) in order to manage to do this work amidst my constant chronic sicknesses.

So, again for the first time, I'm not sure that I can actually keep going with it, and am thinking, considering, and praying about what to do from here.

Love to you all!

- BM

Fluffy · 06-12-2008, 05:27 PM

I know that I know that I know...

Faithwoman · 06-13-2008, 04:00 AM

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I've gotten extra ill again, guys!

And for the very first time since I started ministry on forums, the Holy Spirit is now not giving me enough EXTRA energy (which I have to have) in order to manage to do this work amidst my constant chronic sicknesses.

So, again for the first time, I'm not sure that I can actually keep going with it, and am thinking, considering, and praying about what to do from here.

Love to you all!

Dear Heavenly Father,
I come to you right now in deep prayer for Bondman. I am so thankful for the energy that you have provided Bondman to give your messages to all of us here on this Forum. Even admist his own suffering, he followed and walked through the suffering and continued to pour out blessings and love to others. He has been so faithful in his obedience to you heavenly father. I pray Heavenly father as we all pray that if Bondman is to continue to share your messages through the Forum, that you show how that is to be done that he be given the strength to do what is to be done now, that your will be done dear Heavenly Father. I am soooooooo thankful and praises to you Heavenly Father for the Inner Room and the messages that have been given and for how you helped me understand your words that were written here and how you gave me the strength the wisdom and guidance to be obedient to apply them to my life. You are an awesome God and we know that you will provdide the answers that are needed during this time.
Amen
Faithwoman

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I know that I know that I know...

Ok Fluffy, I am good.. but not good at mind reading.. please share... I want to know...

Faithwoman

Fluffy · 06-13-2008, 04:10 AM

Hey, Faithwoman! One day, when I was praying for Bondman and Nettie, God showed me the two of them jumping out of bed and doing the jitterbug. He has not shown me anything different since, but instead has confirmed it. So, every time I post something dancing in the Inner Room, its to let Bondman know I am still standing for his healing.
There is a deep 'knowing' inside of me that wont let the idea go. Its happened before, God gave me a 'knowing' about something and I stuck with it, and it happened!

Faithwoman · 06-13-2008, 04:20 AM

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So, every time I post something dancing in the Inner Room, its to let Bondman know I am still standing for his healing.
There is a deep 'knowing' inside of me that wont let the idea go. Its happened before, God gave me a 'knowing' about something and I stuck with it, and it happened!

My fellow coffee partner, I am standing right there with you. I find it hard to believe and cannot believe that Bondman's end is near.. there is a breakthrough coming.. whatever that is.. bring it on Lord, we are ready! Praise the Lord!

Faithwoman

Bondman · 06-13-2008, 03:13 PM

As always, thankyou SO much for your kind thoughts and support. Bless you so much for these!!!

Another bad day. But the Message below was all ready to be put up with a single click, so here goes!

Much love,

- BM

Bondman · 06-13-2008, 03:29 PM

Message #93

THE NEW COVENANT (TESTAMENT), BETTER THAN THE OLD - Part 3

... continued from Part 2 ("Don't Try to Mix the New and Old Covenants")

Quote:

Originally Posted by SweetSurrender

Soooo . . . we don't have to obey the 10 commandments? I see now why, if the new commandments are to love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself, all the rest would follow, I think. But what about adultry? Is that a 10 Commandment? Where are they listed in the Old Test.? Not that I want to do that, just that this is a new thought. Why don't pastors preach on this? Do they just think we know all this?

10 BECOMES 9

Great post! A number of quite important matters you've raised! You may read The Ten Commandments in Exodus 20:1-17. And as I said near the end of Part 1, in the New Testament we still have 9 of the Ten Commandments from the Old Testament to keep - the one that's not anywhere commanded in the NT is keeping the Sabbath. It was the 4th Commandment.

OT = "YOU MUST!"

It's MOST important for us to understand the difference between the NT and the OT rules, regulations, laws and commandments that the Hebrew people HAD TO KEEP! Every one of these, from the greatest to the smallest, were of the "YOU MUST DO THIS" kind!!! And if you did NOT, you paid the PENALTY for not doing so! - some of these being death, including being stoned to death. EXAMPLES: Exodus Ch 31:15 (for doing work on the sabbath). Deuteronomy Ch 13:6-11 (for tempting someone to serve a God other than the Lord). Leviticus 24:16 (death by stoning for anyone who swears using the Lord's name - just as well for millions that THAT rule is still not around today I reckon!!)

Read just these few verses in the above examples (if you're game! *hee!*) and maybe you'll very quickly decide that living under the new Covenant of the New Testament is really pretty good, and is what you'd much PREFER to do! - rather than to place yourself under the old Covenant of the Old Testament, as many today still do!!!

NT = LOVE, AND PLEASING GOD!

Fortunately the New Testament IS where we LIVE today, and after keeping the sabbath is excluded, the other 9 are still there for us to keep... BUT... NOT because He has DEMANDED THAT WE KEEP THEM, but rather Because we LOVE Him!!! The New Testament is PERFECTLY CLEAR ABOUT THIS: our MOTIVATION FOR OBEYING OUR WONDERFUL GOD is LOVE - not "YOU MUST".

This leads to how you said: "if the new commandments are to love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself, all the rest would follow, I think." Absolutely! Because of my deep love for my Lady I seek always to PLEASE HER. That's simply a 'given'! Similarly, because of my deep love for the Lord, I seek always to PLEASE HIM!! Again that's a given!! Can you see the incredible RELAXATION of life this allows us who are SO VERY FORTUNATE to be living in the time AFTER Jesus came to earth for us! Sure works for ME!!!

ADULTERY IS BAD

Now to adultery which is strongly spoken against in the NT, starting with Jesus as early as in Matthew Ch 5:27-28 where He actually made the matter of NOT committing adultery EVEN HARDER than previously!! Check it out and see! (and recognise how sensible and reasonable and just plain RIGHT Jesus' new commands are as well!!)

PREACHERS AND TEACHERS

Finally, why don't Pastors preach this? Many complex reasons; may have come from their training, and may include things like lack of knowledge and understanding - and even lack of commitment (yes, a Pastor is just a man also, and can suffer this problem just as readily as we can). We must not JUDGE them - but we MUST be VERY aware that not all preach TRUTH, many NOT even terribly close to it, which of course is incredibly sad. The END OF ALL OF THIS places the responsibility RIGHT BACK ON ME AND ON YOU TO SEEK THE TRUTH FOR OURSELVES: to READ His Word, to ask the Holy Spirit to REVEAL THE TRUTH to us as we do, and to seek out those who DO know and teach the TRUTH of GOD!! The Lord is asking you: will you DO this??

- BM, with Mrs BM

TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY
FOR EVER AND EVER! AMEN!

Jeff · 06-14-2008, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondman

I've gotten extra ill again, guys!

And for the very first time since I started ministry on forums, the Holy Spirit is now not giving me enough EXTRA energy (which I have to have) in order to manage to do this work amidst my constant chronic sicknesses.

So, again for the first time, I'm not sure that I can actually keep going with it, and am thinking, considering, and praying about what to do from here.

Love to you all!

- BM

I'll keep this in my prayers.

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