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Old 05-17-2008, 03:14 AM   #771
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Bear with me..
The seperation I am going through right now is hard.. it seems I am being seperated by those I love ????.. my daughter, my friend I am dating, friends, my church, everything..

Even amongst the recent blessings, I feel like screaming tonite.. I feel very angry, very confused and very lost. Lord, Jesus Help me! I cry unto you to help me. I know you are there, you never leave me.. I was the one who had left you, I know deep in my heart you are there with me, but it is hard.

I just want the best for those I love, and lately Lord, it seems there is nothing I can do, However I can pray and give it all to you Lord. For you see all of everyone, you know exactly what they need, including me.

Lord, I am sooooooooo tired. physically and mentally, to tired to sleep. It just seems when I put my head on that pillow, my mind starts going spinning.

Lord, I am angry and hurt by those I love. It stinks.. just literally stinks..
Maybe I am to be off by myself with all stripped away from me? that is what you want.. you want us first and foremost.. The stripping I am going through Lord is hard. . Oh Lord, please put people here with me, that will allow me to love them, to be a shining light to them, it is hard to give love and have it fall on deaf eyes, ears and hearts, but of course Lord you see so much of that each and every minute. I am but a rag.. I am a sinner, a sinner who so much wants to do your will, but is hurting in the process of getting there.

There are days that I want so much to give into the flesh, but I have not . .. but the pain hurts, I close my eyes and I see the nails being driven into your son.. the pain he took for all of us so that we may have life.

Oh Lord, come quickly and show me.. show me your will for me. It is with faith that I walk, but I feel like my faith is quivering and shaking right now. It has seemed that all day today , the enemy has been trying to take me down, but you give a way out of tempation.. I am here tonite Lord on the forum.. just typing my hurt, my pain, sharing with those who believe in you, who love you, who have hurts and pains too...

Lord, Jesus, I thank you for all that you are. I thank you for your grace and mercy.. I most of all thank you for loving me and never leaving me.

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Old 05-17-2008, 12:53 PM   #772
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Ok am i missing something? Do you have a website out there somewhere besides your Inner Room here?
Yes we do have a website, but it's not in use at the moment. There are about another 60 earlier messages there that maybe we'll also put in.

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ps.. I still got to work on how to change my color and font back after quoting something!....</U>[/size]
Just click on the "A" up above to see colours. Click on the one you want and that colour is now set, ready for you to type.

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Now when you start typing you should have correct colour and size. Any other time you want to, you can do the same thing by highlighting the text then changing the colour and/or size.

And to change the font also, click on the one that's showing, and change it the same way as I've said above.

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Old 05-17-2008, 01:02 PM   #773
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Wow, thankyou JW! I really love that!! Praying for you and family regularly, esp. that things may change for you so you don't have too much stress to handle. Love to all of you! - BM
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ABOUT BIBLE TRANSLATIONS - Part 2

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I used to read NIV until I discovered they had left out whole verses! I mean, it skipped! It'd go from say (ok, I forgot where it was, so I'm making up numbers here for examples) verse 22 to verse 24 and a little side note saying it was left out on purpose. That bothered me. I want to know what verse did they leave out, and why???
So I went to New King James which is working for me. Its also good to take several different translations and compare them. Sometimes it deepens the understanding of what the author is trying to say.
I like the idea of the Amplified, though. My next bible will probably be one of those. What I am trying to do, (but keep forgetting about!!!) is read a bible thru, making notes and stuff in it, and then give it to one of my children. I heard about someone doing that once, and I thought it was a great idea! Oops! Getting off subject. Sorry!
There's a good reason for verses and words left out. When the 1611 King James version was translated it was done from the compliation of various Greek MANUSCRIPTS of books of the New Testament that were available at the time - all very old, fragmentary and partial, or more full. These manuscripts were copies of the originals that had been copied by monks over and over and over since about 200 AD and later.

The compiling of this final "accepted" text to translate from into English (or any other language, such as French) had been a major task for many years. What's utterly remarkable is how good this text was! Because since then - mostly in the last 100 years or so - we've discovered a lot more ancient manuscripts, many of which were up to hundreds of years older than those available to the 1611 translators. In fact we now have manuscripts from not many decades after Jesus' death and resurrection, which I find exciting and astonishing! GOD HAS SO WELL LOOKED AFTER HIS WORD - FOR US!!!

From these many extra and also older manuscripts a "new" accepted text has been compiled, and thus some words and even passages have been deemed as NOT original by Bible scholars. For example when I turn to Romans 8:1 in my Amplified Bible here is what I see:

Romans 8
1 THEREFORE, [there is] now no condemnation - no adjudging guilty of wrong - for those who are in Christ Jesus, who live not after the dictates of the flesh, but after the dictates of the Spirit.

The end section in italics is now considered NOT to have been in the original letter written by Paul. That is, the best texts that we now have, omit this part. But there's absolutely no problem in that, because the section omitted is IN STILL IN OTHER PARTS OF THE NT!!! Then in Mark Ch 16, there's a note at verse 9 to say that verses 9 to 20 (i.e, the last part of this chapter, and the end of Mark) are not in the earliest manuscripts. And there are more verses we're now omitting as well.

SO... we now have more reliable, more complete and earlier manuscripts available to us to get as close as possible to the ORIGINAL writings (none of which have survived from the 1st Century). But as I said above, the mostly extra verses or parts of verses or words that had somehow crept into manuscript copies seem to have DONE NO HARM WHATSOEVER to the New Testament as we've had it for the hast five hundred years or so - AND FURTHERMORE, THE OMITTING OF THESE PROBABLY COPYING ERRORS NOW also does no harm to the message of the Good News that is the New Testament!!

However my Amplified Bible, translated by serious and genuine Christians, puts these verses and passages IN, BUT also tells you what we know about them! That's being open and honest, and treating us, and His precious Word, with full respect - and man, do I REALLY LOVE THAT!!


HOWEVER... of MUCH GREATER CONCERN to me than anything above are many modern translations that have been done by liberal theologians, who seem to have deliberately translated words in such a way as TAKES AWAY from the original Greek text and AFFECTS OUR UNDERSTANDING of what God is truly saying to us. That is why I said that I am VERY WARY of virtually all modern translations, and will stick with my AMPLIFIED BIBLE and the NEW KING JAMES, plus going back to the original Greek text to check this out as needed.

I am thus VERY confident that what I read and understand is as close to the original writings as is possible! *picture of happy Aussie Christian man studying the New Testament!!*

- BM, with Mrs BM


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Bear with me..
The seperation I am going through right now is hard.. it seems I am being seperated by those I love ????.. my daughter, my friend I am dating, friends, my church, everything..

Even amongst the recent blessings, I feel like screaming tonite.. I feel very angry, very confused and very lost. Lord, Jesus Help me! I cry unto you to help me. I know you are there, you never leave me.. I was the one who had left you, I know deep in my heart you are there with me, but it is hard.

I just want the best for those I love, and lately Lord, it seems there is nothing I can do, However I can pray and give it all to you Lord. For you see all of everyone, you know exactly what they need, including me.

Lord, I am sooooooooo tired. physically and mentally, to tired to sleep. It just seems when I put my head on that pillow, my mind starts going spinning.

Lord, I am angry and hurt by those I love. It stinks.. just literally stinks..
Maybe I am to be off by myself with all stripped away from me? that is what you want.. you want us first and foremost.. The stripping I am going through Lord is hard. . Oh Lord, please put people here with me, that will allow me to love them, to be a shining light to them, it is hard to give love and have it fall on deaf eyes, ears and hearts, but of course Lord you see so much of that each and every minute. I am but a rag.. I am a sinner, a sinner who so much wants to do your will, but is hurting in the process of getting there.

There are days that I want so much to give into the flesh, but I have not . .. but the pain hurts, I close my eyes and I see the nails being driven into your son.. the pain he took for all of us so that we may have life.

Oh Lord, come quickly and show me.. show me your will for me. It is with faith that I walk, but I feel like my faith is quivering and shaking right now. It has seemed that all day today , the enemy has been trying to take me down, but you give a way out of tempation.. I am here tonite Lord on the forum.. just typing my hurt, my pain, sharing with those who believe in you, who love you, who have hurts and pains too...

Lord, Jesus, I thank you for all that you are. I thank you for your grace and mercy.. I most of all thank you for loving me and never leaving me.

Love
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Thankyou for sharing, sweetie! So we can pray and love you! Everything you're feeling and everything you wrote is the human condition! People hurt us. We lose friends and loved ones. We may be alone. Then as a Christian our flesh rises up to tempt us to go BACKWARDS! We experience pain. And all of this can become so difficult that we feel confused, angry, and lost.

But... you know the truth!! And He would not have you going through all that you are unless you DID! You know the answers, know what to do. This is the what Peter wrote about:

1 Peter 1:7 that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

and this also:

James 1:12 Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.

God tests and tries us! Proving that we really ARE His son or daughter!! And of course this is for out ultimate good. We don't have to like it - we do have to endure and get through it, STILL WITH HIM! I know you will. Remember that the truth is stronger than our emotions, which can tip us upside down - yet He is there always and He WILL hold us close!

PRAYING!!! Much love! - BM
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Thank you, Bondman, for the explanation of translations! That was most excellent! Nobody else has ever explained it where I could understand it before.


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I am praying for you too, Faithwoman. Your journey is so similar to mine and you have allowed God to strengthen you, so don't give up now. You will make it, I know. BM's advise is the best and Fluffy is there for you too. We are all pulling for ya.
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Faithwoman, I challenge you to make some extra quiet time to listen for the Lord in a new way that you've never heard Him before. In the chaos we often stick to our prior knowledge of how to listen for His voice and we don't think to open our minds to new ways of thinking about what He wants us to do and how He wants us to be. Ways that we may overlook or put aside quickly without testing them against the Word, our prior spiritual knowledge, and real-world results.

Hope that made sense.

Much love and God bless you,

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He loves to see you thanking Him, Faithwoman. May you be blessed, you have a great heart indeed.

(Had to make this a separate post to get my post count off of that terrible number )
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Matthew 7:7 - Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

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