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Old 05-20-2007, 03:47 PM   #11
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Right....and I wasn't disagreeing with you if that is what it sounded like, but agreeing~
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:09 PM   #12
 
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Jesus gave the gift of tounges the day the church was born as the holy Spirit fell upon the Apostles ( beforehand omly disciples) Mary the mother of Jesus physical body and all else there seeking God in prayer.
I will not argue with anyone as I know THIS SUBJECT IS ALMOST STRICTLY DIVIDED ALONG DENOMINAL LINES.
I was given this gift and the Holy Spirit of God comes on me in power when I pray in the Spirit- THIS IS MY PERSONAL TESTIMONY- I won't debate the scripture over this as I am settled in my heart and see no point in argueing about it- If this helped anyone great - if you disagree great- I want all 9 of God's gifts in operation- want to see all of the 5 fold ministry in action- I want to bear all 9 of the fruits of the Spirit- but this again is my walk with Jesus and not an arguement.
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Old 05-20-2007, 10:15 PM   #13
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Has Jesus ever spoken in tongues? (just curious)
If he did it was not recorded in scripture.


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Old 05-20-2007, 10:17 PM   #14
 
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Contrary to what your church is aparently teaching there is no corrilation with tongues and receiving or having the Holy Spirit, savation or the effectiveness of prayer to God.
I agree wholeheartedly with this statement! It would seem as somebody gets things out of whack on every subject- receive all gifts the Lord gives you but remember all that is needed for salvation is the shed blood of our Lord!

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Old 05-20-2007, 10:37 PM   #15
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we know there are diffrent spirits.
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This probably is not going to be a very popular view on the subject but here goes. We have a few people in our church who speak in tongues but not a lot. I have never been comfortable with people who speak in tongues, and I hope that I never receive that "gift". There are many other gifts of the Holy Spirit that I would much rather have. I would find a new church if people tried to tell me that I have to speak in tongues.

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Old 05-20-2007, 10:53 PM   #17
 
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There was never a church before Pentecost- it was part of the church from the beggining- we are te church now
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Old 05-20-2007, 11:02 PM   #18
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I want to be in the will of God. Available and a good and faithful servant. If that involves "tongues" then so be it. If it doesn't then so be it. What ever gift of the Holy Spirit is given it is given at the will of the father at his will for his purpose.
That I use as He wills, what ever gift that he gives is my only desire. If one digs ditches or washes bed pans to th glory of God. If they honor Him in what they do and are they are his just as much as, possibly more than those who are noted and bestowed with any or all gifts but don't use them to His glory.

Many gifts or the false presentation of those more valued gifts is most prevelant in the aclaimed christian church and getting more prevelant with each passing day. "Tongues" is the most impressive, easiest to immutate and hardest to disprove making it the most abused amung those who seek for their own purposes and or to deceive.

I don't doubt that "tongues" was and at the will of God still is manifest today. And just as I am sure of that I am sure that it has been over exagerated, abused and miss used.


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Old 05-21-2007, 12:53 AM   #19
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Speaking in tongues is a gift
Not a requirement for your salvation.

If they are pressuring you to speak in tongues or have made it a requirement to speak in tongues for either salvation or to be on a worship team, you may need to leave. Don't let people judge your walk with God as weak or inferior because you do not speak in tongues. .

Don't worry over it, Be yourself, and most importantly be who God wants you to be.
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Old 05-21-2007, 01:03 AM   #20
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And just as I am sure of that I am sure that it has been over exagerated, abused and miss used.

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False prophets is on the rise and the devil will find any way to deceive God's people. Be it healing, miracles, false teachings, wrong evidences etc etc.

Even though I haven't received this gift, personal experience tells me that this gift is still available today. Like how Boanerges was saying, we should be willing to accept it in order to receive it. Jesus has not given instant healing to anyone through me but I know He can it do it through faith and prayer. Similarly, the gift of tongues is received by who are willing to accept it.

I too won't argue with anyone on this subject.
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