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Fluffy · 12-31-2007, 03:28 AM

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Chargriller · 12-31-2007, 03:49 AM

Your welcome Fluffy and well stated. We all should have our sign around our virtual necks “Excuse our dust. Under construction“. Work in progress!

I hope others may find by their own study, or prayer, or meditation during their quite time similar thoughts that might cause us to pause to look inward in a way maybe not considered before. And as always aligning ourselves both with and in His word.

We should strive to have a full compliment of tools to assist us in our construction as living imitators of Jesus Christ .

Glad to hear you have found a new study subject. I pray it will be rewarding and here’s hoping you might check back to this thread when the time comes and report back to all on your progress.

All who responded may have planted a thought or two (maybe a seed) that the Holy Spirit may water and bring to fruition at sone time...who knows?

I'm troubled by an earlier post by Honeybare who stated near the end of her post

"Would it be wrong of me to share with these other "Christians" how I feel and ask them why they are like they are? "

I would like to answer her in the context of her testimony but feel unqulaified to do so. If there are some brothers or sisters who may understand the sensitivity of her request... and would like to offer her a scriptual answer...I'm sure she would appreciate it?

I just don't think a "yes" or a "no" answer is sufficent. And if the answer can't be founded in scripture...(I'm sure it can) it probably wouldn't be the answer she needs. Where is a pro when you need them?

Sorry Honeybare.

Boanerges · 12-31-2007, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chargriller

There is only agreement from everybody on the forum regarding those verses Bo. And I thank God for having you point them out. My succinct point I am trying to pull out is…. on a personal level how do you as a Christian (possessor vs. professor) carry out those scriptures in a way now and every day that you didn’t do when you were an unsaved sinner.

Physical evidence of Holy Spiritual rebirth? Manifested in a way now that was far from you before? This isn’t directed at any person directly…I’m trying to get my fellow brothers and sisters to put into words (as witnesses) how they manifest their Spiritual rebirth into worldly evidence so that those the Holy Spirit may be calling may see Christ manifested in the actions of others. What an encouragement!!

Though these forums are wonderful were all in a sense…preaching to the choir. For the few (out of billions) lost that find this Christian forum out of probably millions…. what would make this one different than all the others if we all just re-quote the Holy Bible scriptures but fail to show what crucifying the old man and being born again in Spirit (resurrected) means in a day to day to hour to hour to week to week to year to year?

To me it screams out….. Here is the instruction book with all the directions ….but I need someone willing to show me how to put it together. Please Lord give me a Daily tool that doesn’t just talk about it…but says here is an earthly sinful example…this probably sounds like rambling. I’m not an educated man. I know there are people on this forum with college degrees, (BA, PhD’s and all other letters) that could embarrass me in a heart beat trying to struggle putting into words the concept that’s in my heart.

We have all heard the term “Professors of faith vs. Possessors of faith. I am searching for a methodology that will let the unbeliever have the scales fall from their eyes and the veil lifted from his face. I want my self and others to have the privilege of perhaps being that “Tool”!

We should be able to show how “The rubber meets the road”. Not just quote the Driver Manuel and then your on your own. Instead look here sit down and fasten your seat belt. place your hands on the wheel at the ten and two position and so on and so on.

Just for the record I know that the above isn’t the only purpose of a Christian Forum. I vision this place as a manifold like on an exhaust on a car with many branches all coming off the main body of the manifold. Each branch peculiar to it’s self but yet rooted in the original Grace as it’s source. O’ my God I love You so!

One must remember that this is a process. When one is born again one receives a new spirit from God. When one is ressurected one recieves a new body. It is our souls- mind, intellect, will and emotions Jesus came to save. This is accomplished as we belive God at His Word, we are renewed in our minds one area at a time as we come into agreement with the Word of God. This is why we see so many levels of maturity in the body of Christ (as aptly described by Paul the Apostle). So with this in mind one is likely to see many levels of the expression of Christ in different Christians.
What is different in the way I act now- more mercy, more love, quick to forgive, putting others first, caring for the hurting these are just some symptoms of a life fill with the Holy Spirit. When I really found Jesus I did not try to give up drinking and drugging but instead I simply did not want to do those thins anymore. I found Jesus so much better that I can no longer even think of the old lifestyle. So now I love to give, I love to pray, I love His Word, I love to worship. But if there is one thing that really charecterizes a difference in my life it is that I walk in communion with God. I interact with Him thruout the day, I am led by Him in most ( it should be all) choices I make and His presence directs and flavors all I do.

Chargriller · 12-31-2007, 06:25 PM

Quote…When I really found Jesus I did not try to give up drinking and drugging but instead I simply did not want to do those thins anymore. I found Jesus so much better that I can no longer even think of the old lifestyle End quote

Brothers and sisters this is a wonderful testimony! So may salient points are contained within for us to absorb and digest slowly. If you pass over this too quickly your heart may miss something very, important.

Though there are many to chose the one I’d like to highlight is that we ourselves tend to think that we have to do “something” as in quit lusting, quit tobacco, quit alcohol, quit being filled with unrighteous angry and on and on.

Brother Bo hit the nail directly on the head. Walking with our Lord is more a “being “ than a doing. The struggle isn’t really in giving up the inequity for the cause of Christ. It’s more what Paul described as his struggle.

We can’t really try to be like Christ…Instant damnation…we certainly can’t make it happen because we try to. The Holy Spirit is the ONLY one that can accomplish it in us.

All you have to do is SURRENDER your earthly spiritual will. That's when the Holy Spirit will begin to work miracles in your life.

As this year ends let all who might read this posters and non posters alike…think about the upcoming year as this one is closing out.

If you or someone you know or love hasn’t considered turning that will …that control over their lives to the one and only Almighty Lord. The creator who spoke and it was!

Glance at the hourglass that contains the years of your life as the grains pass thru the narrow constriction and consider accepting Him now.

Before the sands of time run out for you. Dang you say! Clay that would take an awful lot of trust! Yeah your right….maybe that’s why the Greeks had a word for it ..they called it agape…“unconditional love”.

God showed YOU that same love before you were even formed in your mothers womb. Isn’t it about time….?

Imagine if you will somebody presenting you with the greatest present that was possible to present you for no other reason than they loved you . And you never even bothered to unwrap it?

I know all who may read these words are most likely saved. But just in case. God loves you and His love endures forever. And WE love you too.

Fluffy · 12-31-2007, 09:20 PM

1 John 3:1
"How great is the love that He has LAVISHED on us, that we should be called children of God!"

Fluffy · 01-04-2008, 01:58 PM

Ok, Did some studying and I found MANY scriptures that spoke to me.
Here goes! As in a coherent manner as I can manage:
Lets start with outward appearance- that one's more obvious- Lowered hemlines and higher collars. (no, not turtle necks year round) but I have become uncomfortable "exposed" if you will.
1 Timothy 2:9- "in like manner, also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation...but which is proper for women professing godliness with good works."

Which then leads to purity and faithfulness:
1Thess. 4:3-5 "For this is the will of God, your sanctification. That you should abstain from sexaul immorality, that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in passion of lust..."

1 Cor 6:9 " Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be decieved. Neither fornicators, nor idolators, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the Kingdom of God.
And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."
As this this a family oriented forum, let the verses infer what I am talking about.
Then came shame and condemnation. The enemy was really beating me up.
Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now NO condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the spirit."

2 Cor 5:17 "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away, behold all things have become new."

But lets us not forget actions, or conduct. How have speech patterns changed? I used to complain, grouse, and whine and seek attention....
Phillipians 2:14 "Do all things without complaining and disputing."

2 Timothy 2:16 "But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness."

Col 4:6 "Let your speech always be with grace, seasoned with salt..."

For General Conduct these are good:
Titus 2:3-5 (synopsis: be discreet, circumspect, diligent in the home)

1 Thes. 4:11 " that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your hands...."

Romans 12:9-21 (good description of how to behave like a christian)

Phillip. 1:27 "only let your conduct be worthy of the Gospel of Christ...."

There are many, many more scriptures that I could share on purity, holiness, conduct, all such things I needed to learn.
But the hardest lesson for me has been how to turn of those "Christian Vibes" that are so easily used to condemn others with. Without saying a word, I could look at unbelievers (or even carnal christians) and how they behave and the things they do, and even tho I have been in the same place before, cant help but think of how filthy that looks to God. I see how God sees it, how it was in me, yet I forget the love God had for me while I was IN IT!
Heb 4:13 "And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give an account."

Romans 14:13 "Therefore, let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother's way."

John 4:24 "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgement."

Math. 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged"
Study notes from Bible: "Jesus does not forbid criticism, opinions, or the condemnation of wrongdoing, what He forbids is censoriousness, the spirit of faultfinding that overlooks one's own shortcomings while assuming the role of supreme judge in regard to the sins in others."

James 1:19-20 "Let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath, for the WRATH OF MAN DOES NOT PRODUCE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD." (emphasis mine)

This seems woefully inadequate to describe what the Lord has done for me. There is SO much more! How can you condense it down to one or 2 verses?

Romans 5:6 "For when we were still without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly."

Praise be to our God that loves us so much, and doesnt leave us in our filth, but raises us up, cleans us off and changes our hearts and minds until we reflect the very image of Christ!

2 Cor 3:18 "But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as by the Spirit of the Lord."

Chargriller · 01-11-2008, 07:14 PM

I would like to thank those that shared the intimate and personal side of their relationship by thought and Holy scripture. I find this sharing a blessing and reaffirmation of my beliefs in my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Sharing how we are doers of the word and not just hears only...... manifests Christ... in both us and to others. A handy tool to help us dig deeper in our own walk and maybe a tool to others still seeking just who it is they will walk with. Amen

I have some other thoughts I've been pondering and would like to share and bring forward sometime. So don't be surprised if you see another "Daily Tools #2." Somewhere down the line.

God Bless Us All

Boanerges · 01-11-2008, 08:11 PM

Thank you brother!

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