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Old 09-10-2007, 09:14 PM   #11
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John 1 New American Standard Bible

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 He was in the beginning with God.

3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men.

5 The Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

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It plainly states that THE WORD WAS GOD.

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There is a great difference in opinion about Melchizedek, king of Salem- some say he was a man but with no known historical background and/or tracealbe lineage others think he is a type and shadow of our Lord Jesus Christ- I have never seen enough evidence one way or another to make up my mind.
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God provides us with all manner of signs in the old testament that we might be ready to receive the truth in the new testament and you are right in saying that Melchizedek was a type of Christ - thus one of these signs.

Melchizedek was the king of Salem, which was the ancient city which would become Jerusalem. He was also an high priest of God, even before the Levites and the Jewish priesthood.

Here is a sign of Jesus Christ, both king and high priest everlasting, from everlasting.

Consider all the signs in the old testament, for there are many.
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Luke 22 New American Standard Bible


66 When it was day, the Council of elders of the people assembled, both chief priests and scribes, and they led Him away to their council chamber, saying,

67 "If You are the Christ, tell us." But He said to them, "If I tell you, you will not believe;

68 and if I ask a question, you will not answer.

69 "But from now on THE SON OF MAN WILL BE SEATED AT THE RIGHT HAND of the power OF GOD."

70 And they all said, "Are You the Son of God, then?" And He said to them, "Yes, I am."

71 Then they said, "What further need do we have of testimony? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth."
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Genesis 14:18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine; he was the priest of God Most High. 19 And he blessed him and said:

Would you read too much on bread and wine he gave to Abraham?
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There is website I created a couple of years ago that might help you understand the role of Christ both before and after his life on earth.

http://petejepson.tripod.com
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26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”

27 So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

28 Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”


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Is it probable or possible that JESUS was ALREADY in the form of a man BEFORE HE, being GOD, CREATED man in HIS OWN LIKENESS ???

( verse 26 >>> partial quote >>>> "in OUR image, according to OUR likeness" )

( verse 27 >>> partial quote >>>> "in HIS own image" ) ( Perhaps not just the image that HE had in mind, but HIS very own physical likeness. )


Is there a difficulty with JESUS already being in physical HUMAN FORM before creation and then being made manifest in the womb of the virgin Mary ?

Could HE not have converted from HIS physical form in heaven to the seed manifested into the womb of Mary ?

Do you feel that these thoughts are out of line with scripture ?

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Hard to say Dave- man is already in God's image- three parts - spirit, soul and body - God manifests as Father , Son and Holy Ghost- both tripartate . Some of first to references I have seen to Jesus in Genesis were : the Beggining , the Tree of Life andthe lamb slain for covering but who is to say what form He took at first?
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There is website I created a couple of years ago that might help you understand the role of Christ both before and after his life on earth.

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What program(s) are you using to open the ".lit" file ?

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