Matthew 11:20-24 - Page 2

A brother in Christ · 09-03-2007, 05:37 PM

who is potter over clay... romans 9

A brother in Christ · 09-03-2007, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonSlocum

The Unrepenting Cities
20. Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles were done, because they did not repent.
21. "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes. 22. "Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon in {the} day of judgment than for you. 23. "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day. 24. "Nevertheless I say to you that it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in {the} day of judgment, than for you."

The argument that a few are pre-picked for salvation, and all others are not nor can they be saved seems to be in serious trouble in light of the statements in red.

if God wants something He has the power to do it , He knows how we will react to every possible message

matt 11:23 .... If the miracles had occured ..... they would have been saved

not all are chosen

this is grace ... God choice ..romans 9

Boanerges · 09-03-2007, 05:41 PM

it would seem as these lumps of clay may influence their useage:
2Ti 2:20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
2Ti 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

A brother in Christ · 09-03-2007, 05:47 PM

nice connection

MrJim · 09-03-2007, 05:49 PM

Hey Gordon, you sure do get around buddy!

Consider me another non-calvinist ally

A brother in Christ · 09-03-2007, 07:40 PM

another person who disagrees with romans 9

I am not a calvinist

MrJim · 09-03-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by A brother in Christ

another person who disagrees with romans 9

I am not a calvinist

Does that then make you one who disagrees with Romans 11

GordonSlocum · 09-06-2007, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJim

Hey Gordon, you sure do get around buddy!

Consider me another non-calvinist ally

Thanks MrJim

A brother in Christ · 09-06-2007, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MrJim

Does that then make you one who disagrees with Romans 11

what your point? is it not part of the bible....

GordonSlocum · 09-06-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by A brother in Christ

what your point? is it not part of the bible....

Let me ask you to do something for all of us:

In a clear, concise simple outline tell all of us what you believe. Please don't quote endless verses, just state in your own words what you believe. I for one am having a very difficult time understanding what you are saying because of the way you post. Perhaps it is just me, if so, I do hope you will outline specifically what you believe. Please be concise and brief.

Thank
Gordon

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