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Old 07-24-2007, 02:27 PM   #11
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Not arguing with you Jon Marc but the Bible says to repent of your sins, be baptized and you will recieve the Holy Spirit.

I agree about coming as you are, to some degree, but if your heart is desiring God, isn't wanting to give up sin a step before repenting?
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Old 07-24-2007, 03:52 PM   #12
 
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^^^ That should happen after you are saved, or at least, be something that you are seeking. Is that a requirement for coming in the first place?
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:49 PM   #13
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I am not explaining myself correctly.
JM and B, yes, you come to God as you are.
I think I am trying to say that something in your heart gives you the desire to come to him and to give up sin.
And repentance is true regret and yes, only after we are saved will God give us the strength to battle sin.
Did I say that better?
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Old 07-25-2007, 12:28 AM   #14
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YES! The time IS NOW!
I agree, we have no promise of tomorrow!
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Old 07-25-2007, 01:06 AM   #15
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that is very true, and being in depression makes you think of that, never thougthof it nor did i care before i got hit with depression.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:26 AM   #16
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can you baptize yourself? becous there was this skit on a cd where the guy was talking about why we only have one song in heaven or somthing, then he said "i now baptize myself in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit, and in the name of jesus"
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no i didnt give up sin to be saved,i wanted a better life.which i can,t get here.but with a lot of faith.if i was a mass murderer would God accept me.or if i just did it a few times after would he understand.what is the acceptable limit,i dont know,but i know i will be judged on my sins.im not perfect i try every day to be better not saved and think it doesn,t matter.
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Old 07-26-2007, 12:49 AM   #18
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there would be no witness of course lol, i was just wondering about that, made for a good mood on the cd though. the hard part about gettign baptized is im the only "actual" christian in my entire family, my mom believes in god but dosent realy take it too serious, my aunt is athiest, my grandfather is jewish, my grandmother is jewish. the only reason my sister was baptized is becous her father (no relation to me) is somewhat of a christian, he is a christian but dosent live it, he is a drunk and does drugs sometimes, although he has read the bible three times completly. right now he is in a drug rehibilitation center, so he cant witness it
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The book of life in one way is the bible as to convey the message of the bible correctly will With Gods help bring life but the answer to your question is the book of life is as violet said Gods book,your name is added after you are born again which occurs at baptism but can be removed so do not think once saved always saved and also clement's name the bible says is in the lambs book of life and he was the Bishop of Rome in the late first century and early second century so i think him writings can be trusted and no i am not roman catholic i am Coptic Orthodox
here is a link that has some of clements writing in it

www.ourchurch.com/member/e/earlychurch/

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Old 07-26-2007, 09:41 AM   #20
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Thank you, D2M.
I am with agreement on this.
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