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07-22-2007, 07:14 AM
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My heart breakers for you. I feel the pain that you suffered at the hands of you family and loved ones. I was a bad boy as well . I feel the anger that you must have felt when the people that said they loved you turn their back on you. I know the pain of being totally misunderstood and being rejected. My dear bother, may I ask you, has your earthly father turned his back on you. Have you had a good relationship with your dad? Or was he as my dad, a drunk absent father? |
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07-24-2007, 04:27 AM
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I have heard this referred to a couple of different ways, and honestly I don’t know what the common belief is, it seems to change with the subscriber, but for understanding purposes let me clarify what this passage is referring to. The first thing that should grab our attention is the way verse 19 starts out “There was a certain rich man” Now take a look at verse 1 of chapter 16. “There was a certain rich man”…. Starting midway through chapter 14 and ending in chapter 16 verse 31 Jesus is teaching by way of parables. A parable is a comparison by sustained resemblance; it is an extended simile. The likeness or resemblance must be sought from the entire context. As an aside- Two ancient Greek manuscripts The Bezae Caulabrigiensis, and the Koridethian-Caesarean text include the words: eipen de kai heteran parabolen at the beginning of verse 19, which translate as “And He said also another parable” This parable is addressed to the Pharisees {verse 14} The Pharisees, who believed in rewards and punishment immediately after death. Jesus told this parable to the Pharisees in light of their Talmudic traditions and beliefs. It was they, not Jesus, who coined the phrase “Abraham’s Bosom” as one of several afterlife locations. Jesus uses the parable to condemn the Pharisees and catch them in their own erroneous belief. His intention was not to contradict the entire Old Testament by teaching survival after death. His primary intention was to show that the Pharisees were so evil that even if someone rose from the dead they still wouldn’t listen to him….. Just the opposite appears in Jesus teachings when we look at verses like in John 11:14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead .and Luke 14:14. And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. And Jesus could not have denied the abundance of scripture from the Old Testament like that of Ecclesiastes 9:5,6, &10 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6: Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. 10: Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest. How prophetic it was, as evidenced by his own resurrection from the dead, many of them did not believe
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07-24-2007, 04:29 AM
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Thanks for your concern. Actually my Father as well as my family were the best. I come from a family of 12 but our household was….. loving, kind, giving, and very tight. I feel extremely blessed to have grown up in such a warm loving environment despite my rebellious and mischievous nature. Maybe “mischievous nature” somewhat candy coats the type of person I was. I would do anything as a challenge …………consequences or reprisal did not mater. I don’t think my heart was really malicious, but my actions were definitely borderline ...and then some So I don’t really blame the Nuns or Priests for telling me I was going to hell, in their minds the things I would do deserved that; and after a while it never bothered me.
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07-24-2007, 04:30 AM
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I don’t think I indicated in ay manner that I deserve eternity ….I don’t, you don’t, nobody does, but that does not negate the truth that I have it ….my assurances of that come from my heavenly Father. To think anything less would be to call God a liar. This is not something we have earned, nor can we earn it, according to the written Word, it was “made unto us ……” If you would like to discuss this further we can. I would be happy to supply you with the numerous scripture that guarantee our eternity, but on a different thread as this one really isn’t dealing with that subject.
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07-24-2007, 05:44 AM
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ya know what the creator of this thread has to say is very depressing. jesus died so we diddnt have to go to hell, that is why he was nailed to a cross and tourterd to death for. so please leave here with all that "we're all going to hell" stuff.
"if there is a hell below, we're all gonna go" bull!
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07-24-2007, 06:13 AM
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07-24-2007, 06:25 AM
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i did, i read the whole thread. and i think its completly irrelevent
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"i asked the good lord why and sighed, he told me we live to die" "im running and doging caps till the day i see jehova" "only time will tell who dies, these are the day's of our lives" "come into my world and you can see that we are more than thugs" |
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07-24-2007, 06:41 AM
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Hi Daniel,
Azheis created this thread and he is not saying that at all! I am the one who believes in hell and yes, Jesus died on the cross so none of us have to go there and that is how I believe. And if I am right, there is nothing to worry about as long as we have salvation! |
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07-25-2007, 07:13 AM
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I still need an understanding of this~ Mark 9: 45And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: 46Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. 47And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: 48Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. |
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