Israel's role in the end times

Jeff · 07-19-2006, 05:26 PM

"What is Israel's role in the end times? Does what is happening in Israel today mean the end times are quickly approaching?"

Every time there is an explosion of conflict in or around Israel, many see it as a sure sign of the quickly approaching end times. The problem with this is that it creates a â€œboy that cried wolfâ€ syndrome. We may eventually tire of the conflict in Israel, so much so that we will not recognize when true prophetically significant events occur. Conflict in Israel is not necessarily a sign of the end timesâ€¦allow me to clarify.

Conflict in Israel has been a reality whenever Israel has existed as a nation. Whether it was the Egyptians, Amalekites, Midianites, Moabites, Ammonites, Amorites, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, or Romans â€“ the nation of Israel has always been surrounded by and persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel is the reason that Israelâ€™s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria, Haman, official of Persia, Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany, or Ahmadinejad, President of Iran â€“ attempts to ultimately destroy Israel will always fail. The persecutors of Israel will come and goâ€¦but the persecution will remain. As a result, conflict in Israel cannot be considered a reliable indicator of the soon arrival of the end times.

At the same time, there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times. That is why the time period is known as the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation, and the â€œtime of Jacobâ€™s troubleâ€ (Jeremiah 30:7). Here is what the Bible does say about Israel in the end times:

There will be a mass return of Jews to the land of Israel (Deuteronomy 30:3; Isaiah 43:6; Ezekiel 34:11-13; 36:24; 37:1-14).

The antichrist will make a 7-year covenant of "peace" with Israel (Isaiah 28:18; Daniel 9:27).

The Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 11:1).

The antichrist will break his covenant with Israel. Worldwide persecution of Israel will result (Daniel 9:27; 12:1, 11; Zechariah 11:16; Matthew 24:15, 21; Revelation 12:13). Israel will be invaded (Ezekiel chapters 38-39).

Israel will finally recognize Jesus as the Messiah (Zechariah 12:10). Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered (Jeremiah 33:8; Ezekiel 11:17; Romans 11:26).

There is much turmoil in Israel today. Israel is persecuted, surrounded by enemies â€“ the Palestinians, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc. This hatred and persecution of Israel is only a hint of what will happen in the end times (Matthew 24:15-21). Israel has been persecuted since it was reconstituted as a nation in 1948. Many Bible prophecy scholars believed the six-day Arab-Israeli war in 1973 was the "beginning of the end." Could what is taking place in Israel today indicate that the end is near? Yes. Does it necessarily mean the end is near? No. Jesus Himself said it best, "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come" (Matthew 24:4-6).

Reproduced with permission from GotQuestions

LA-girl · 08-03-2006, 05:49 AM

It is really sad to see all the christians who are being fooled by this literal Israel-conflict (IMO). Christians who think that God is supporting violence against sivilian and children. The same God who told us to love our enemies and turn the other cheek?

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Are all of these end-time prophecies in Scripture regarding Israel and the temple speaking of the literal nation of Jews and a physical building, or is there a deeper spiritual application?

Do you remember when Jesus came the first time? His people misunderstood and misapplied the prophecies regarding His kingdom. They eagerly waited and watched for Him to establish a literal, earthly kingdom. Jesus constantly explained that His first coming was to establish a spiritual kingdom. He said, “The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for behold, the kingdom of God is within you” (Luke 17:20, 21).

Remember that the name “Israel” not only referred to Jacob, but also to his descendants—who became Israel. The same principle is seen in the New Testament.
For example, the Lord told the ancient Israelites, “And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation” (Exodus 19:6). In the New Testament, Peter applies these exact words to the church: “But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people” (1 Peter 2:9).

Likewise, immediately after Paul’s statement in Galatians 3 about Jesus being “the seed,” he then tells his Gentile (a non-Jew) converts, “And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:29). Thus in the New Testament, the name Israel not only applies to Jesus Christ, but also to those who are born in Christ—His Church! In other words, all true Christians are now God’s spiritual Israel.

Paul writes, “They are not all Israel, which are of Israel” (Romans 9:6). How’s that for proof! That is, not all are part of God’s spiritual Israel who are of the literal nation of Israel. Paul continues: “That is, They which are the children of the flesh [physical descendants of Abraham], these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed” (v. 8). The children of the flesh are only natural descendants of Abraham, but the children of the promise are counted as the true seed. Today, any person—Jew or Gentile—can become part of this spiritual nation of Israel through faith in Jesus Christ.

Paul writes, “Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest on the law, and makest thy boast of God. ... For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Therefore if the uncircumcision [Gentiles] keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision? ... For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God” (Romans 2:17, 25, 26, 28, 29).

Did you catch that? The implications are staggering! Someone who is “called a Jew” because he is a physical descendant of Abraham, and yet who lives as a lawbreaker, “is not a Jew”—at least, not in God’s eyes. His “circumcision is made uncircumcision.” It is revoked. Thus to God, he is a Gentile. And a believing Gentile, who through faith keeps “the righteousness of the law,” his uncircumcision is counted for circumcision. Thus to God, he is a Jew.

After the veil in the temple ripped from top to bottom and the early disciples were excommunicated, we find an unusual indifference among the early believers, nearly all Jews, regarding the Jewish temple.

Because they knew Jesus to be the true Lamb of God, and that the Jewish temple was designed to accommodate animal sacrifices, the New Testament writers saw the temple as irrelevant. They recognized the establishment of a new spiritual temple and priesthood. See some amazing Biblical evidence for this below, with our emphasis in bold:
• “If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people” (1 Corinthians 3:17, 16).

Sadly, even after God provides all this clear biblical evidence that His temple today is a spiritual one, the church, many Christians are waiting for the Jews to rebuild a physical temple on the site where the mosque of Omar (Dome of the Rock) now sits—also known as the Temple Mount. Yet there is no prophecy, promise, or commandment in the Bible that says the temple would be rebuilt again after the Romans destroyed it. Though it might very well be rebuilt, Jesus’ prophecy that not one stone would sit upon another seemed to be of an extremely final tone.

So what does the verse in 2 Thessalonians 2:4 mean? Simply this: This antichrist power would seat itself over the church of God claiming the worship that belongs only to Jesus Christ.
The new covenant is made “with the house of Israel”! God never makes a salvation covenant with Gentiles. In fact, nowhere in Scripture do you find any saving covenant made with anyone but Israelites! So if you want to be saved, you must be born again as a spiritual Jew. This is not to say that all Christians must now be circumcised and sacrifice lambs, but we must have the spiritual equivalent of these things—Jesus, the Lamb of God (the final sacrifice), and circumcision of the heart.

We are saved based on choices we make regarding God’s provision, not on national status or physical citizenship. But if, when Paul says that “all Israel will be saved,” he is speaking of spiritual Israel, and if we understand that we become a “true Jew” only by a choice, then it all makes sense.

To read the whole article visit:
www.propecycode.com
Choose: watch online: Israels temple in prophecy: Additional study: Spiritual Israel!

Fr. Onesimus · 08-03-2006, 01:02 PM

Jesus Christ Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.

"Violence against civilians and children"? You must be talking about the deliberate killing of civilians by Hamas and Hezb'allah. You surely cannot mean the misfortune of the civilians ACCIDENTALLY killed by the Israelis.

Are you one of those people who thinks there is moral equivalency between the terrorists and Israel?

LA-girl · 08-03-2006, 01:25 PM

Fr. Onesimus:

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Are you one of those people who thinks there is moral equivalency between the terrorists and Israel?

In my opinion we should not support the nation Israel in every violence act they commit only because it is Israel. I'm not sure we are to support violence of any kind, especially as the literal Israel is not what we should have our eyes focused on at all, but the spiritual Israel (the true church).
Are the conflict in the middle-east an expression of the commandment Jesus commanded us: to love our enemies and turn the other cheek?

Please read the whole article I quoted from in my first post. It should be a real eye-opener regarding: Who is todays true Israel!

08-03-2006, 11:35 PM

That's heavy LA-girl!

The Apostle Paul speaks about Israel.
Read Romans 11th. chapter.

Many innocent people are suffering and
it seems like mostly Arabs in Israel for the
most part are killed according to what I read
in the newspaper and on the net.

King David in Psalm 122:6 told us "to pray for
the 'peace' of Jerusalem' and the 'Promise' to
those who do this>> they shall prosper that love
thee". Amen!

I let God sort out who is His elect and who isn't!

Peace Be Unto You,

WPN-X

LA-girl · 08-04-2006, 10:09 AM

Quote:

The Apostle Paul speaks about Israel.

Read Romans 11th. chapter.

First of all thank you for replying. I think it is really important for all of us to find out what the Bible really says. It is so important that we study his word carefully so that we won't be deceived. Remember the enemy (Satan) will deceive the whole world, so please do not trust what a preacher says, do not trust a biblical view because it is what the majority believes! The only way for us not to be deceived is to study Gods word very carefully.

Now, to the werse you were quoting. Yes, this speaks of the literal nation of Israel. (the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.) v.1. But what Paul is saying here is that the Gentiles should not view the literal Jews and the literal Israel as an enemy. Paul says that we should love the Jews just as much as the Gentiles, not more, not less. We have a responsability to share the gospel with the whole world, not just the Gentiles, but the Jews as well.

For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. verse 16
For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. v.21

This means that to God we are all, both Jews and Gentiles the same. Paul is saying to the Gentiles, that since he did not spare the Jews, he will not spare the Gentiles either.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes.

Remember Paul is saying that the Gentiles should not look down on the Jews because they failed to embrace Jesus as the Messiah.

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

How can Paul be any clearer? God has included us all, both Jews and Gentiles. We are all just as worthy, just as holy if we accept Jesus as our saviour and choose to walk with Him!

Don’t forget that “they are not all Israel, which are of Israel” (Romans 9:6). And remember, “For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh” (Philippians 3:3). Share with others the truth that now “there is neither Jew nor Greek, ... for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:28, 29).

Fr. Onesimus · 08-04-2006, 12:36 PM

LA Girl: This 'Replacement Theology' is probably one of the more damaging haeresies redivivus in our time. Don't get sucked in to this tripe.

As for 'turn the other cheek' Jesus is speaking about debates, not real bodily injury and killing. That's why the same 'gentle Jesus' COMMANDED His disciples to get swords! What do you suppose they used those swords for...BACK SCRATCHERS???

No. No. No. Pacifism is NOT a Christian doctrine.

As for supporting violence. God Himself tells us we must defend the innocent against the wicked. This is exactly what Israel is doing.

Again I ask: Are you one who sees a moral equivalencey between Hezb'allah's deliberate murder of civilians, and the 'collateral damage' which still happens when Israel goes to GREAT PAINS to NOT KILL CIVILIANS?

How very broad such a moral vision must be..............

Love123 · 08-05-2006, 05:49 PM

Gods promises to Abram...

1. I will make you a great nation"

2. "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you."

3. "In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed" (Genesis 12:2,3)

4. . "All the land which you see I give to you and your descendants for ever."

5. "I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth" (great in number, Genesis 13:16).

6. "I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you."

7. "I will establish my covenant between me and you and your descendants after you ... to be God to you and your descendants" (Genesis 17:6-8).

*****Why are the Jews Gods "Chosen" People? God had a great regard for the faithfulness of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

*****The Jews were chosen, "because he loved your fathers, therefore he chose their descendants" (Deuteronomy 4:37).

God said: "Understand that the LORD your God is not giving you this good land to possess because of your righteousness, for you are a stiff-necked people" (9:6).
Nothing had changed centuries later, when they crucified God's Son, Jesus Christ (Acts 7:51).
However, by working through one special people, God was able to draw attention to His character and purpose with the earth. He said to Moses:

"For this purpose I have raised you up, that I may show my power in you, and that my name may be declared in all the earth" (Exodus 9:6).
This was vitally important, for God later said:
"But truly, as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the Lord" (Numbers 14:21).
This wonderful promise will be fulfilled after Jesus Christ returns to the earth.

Though scattered and persecuted, the Jews still exist as a nation. That is because God promised: "I will save you from afar ...

I will not make a complete end of you" (Jeremiah 30:10,11).

Many Bible passages speak of Israel being regathered to their own land (Jeremiah 31:10; Ezekiel 36:24-28).

Many more talk about Jesus coming as king (Psalm 72; Acts 1:11). Our five "golden keys" work together to unlock God's message about "The Jews in God's Purpose".
Yes, God's salvation is also offered to Gentiles (non-Jews). Jesus will rule the world from Jerusalem.

"The Gentiles shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory" (Isaiah 62:2). And it all comes down to this verse....notice there is no stipulations here By God..Ill choose you if...nope....

"For thou art an Holy people unto the Lord thy God, the Lord Thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are on the face of the earth"

"For thou art an Holy people unto the Lord thy God, the Lord Thy God hath chosen thee to be a "peculiar" people unto himself, above all people that are on the face of the earth"

peculiar from the hebrew Dictionary for the word "seg-ool-law"' or "hllgo" MEans "valued property" they belong to God

God Bless
Love123

Love123 · 08-05-2006, 05:52 PM

Rev 21:2 And I John saw..... The Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

Galatians 4:25-26 ...Hebrews 12:22 one is earthy and the home of the believers during the Millennial period.

The other is heavenly as the New Jerusalem or Celestial City hover over the earth during the thousand year millennial reign of Christ and then becomes situated eternally upon earth at the end of the thousand year period.

Revelation 21:1-8 actually follows 21:9 -22:15. This is one time the chronological outline of the book of Revelation is different.

God Bless
Love123

Love123 · 08-05-2006, 06:15 PM

What legal restrictions and great sufferings have been imposed upon Jews over the ages?

Do the Gentiles wear the same badge as a Jew?

The New Holy City of the New Jerusalem.............will be in Jerusalem........

Not the USA...................which is believed to be political Babylon of Revelation.

Rev18. Chapter 18------ In the next twenty four verses. We witness the destruction of political Babylon. This Babylon is different from the one just discussed. Chapter 17 concerned religious Babylon, whereas chapter 18 pictures political or commercial Babylon.

Religious Babylon was called ...mystery Babylon... but commercial Babylon is referred to as... Babylon the great... Religious Babylon was presented as a woman or a mother, while commercial Babylon is portrayed as a city â€“ a great city a might city and eventually a burning city. Reglious Babylon was situated on seven hills, whereas political Babylon is visible from the *seas (see verse 17, 18 and 21).

Religious Babylon was destroyed by the kings of he earth (17:16) but political Babylon will be destroyed by horrendous judgments from the hand of God.
When religious Babylon was destroyed he kings rejoiced. When poetical Babylon is demolished, however, the kings and merchants of he earth lament and weep for her
(18:9, 15).

The 144,000 represent the Twelve Tribes of Israel.
Juda, Reuben, Gad, Aser, Nepthalim, Manasses, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulon, Joseph and Benjamin...
Jewish names .........head up Jewish Tribes in a Jewish Nation- Israel.

Rev21:12)It had a great, high wall with...(12) twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.

When we walk through A Gate of Pearl in The Holy City of THE NEW JERUSALEM; we will pass by a Name
Of one of the twelve tribes of Israel.

God thinks the Jews are pretty special donâ€™t you think?

07-19-2006, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jeff Admin Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Carlton Posts: 3,496 Blog Entries: 1 Rep Power: 10	Israel's role in the end times "What is Israel's role in the end times? Does what is happening in Israel today mean the end times are quickly approaching?" Every time there is an explosion of conflict in or around Israel, many see it as a sure sign of the quickly approaching end times. The problem with this is that it creates a â€œboy that cried wolfâ€ syndrome. We may eventually tire of the conflict in Israel, so much so that we will not recognize when true prophetically significant events occur. Conflict in Israel is not necessarily a sign of the end timesâ€¦allow me to clarify. Conflict in Israel has been a reality whenever Israel has existed as a nation. Whether it was the Egyptians, Amalekites, Midianites, Moabites, Ammonites, Amorites, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, or Romans â€“ the nation of Israel has always been surrounded by and persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel is the reason that Israelâ€™s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria, Haman, official of Persia, Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany, or Ahmadinejad, President of Iran â€“ attempts to ultimately destroy Israel will always fail. The persecutors of Israel will come and goâ€¦but the persecution will remain. As a result, conflict in Israel cannot be considered a reliable indicator of the soon arrival of the end times. At the same time, there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times. That is why the time period is known as the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation, and the â€œtime of Jacobâ€™s troubleâ€ (Jeremiah 30:7). Here is what the Bible does say about Israel in the end times: There will be a mass return of Jews to the land of Israel (Deuteronomy 30:3; Isaiah 43:6; Ezekiel 34:11-13; 36:24; 37:1-14). The antichrist will make a 7-year covenant of "peace" with Israel (Isaiah 28:18; Daniel 9:27). The Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 11:1). The antichrist will break his covenant with Israel. Worldwide persecution of Israel will result (Daniel 9:27; 12:1, 11; Zechariah 11:16; Matthew 24:15, 21; Revelation 12:13). Israel will be invaded (Ezekiel chapters 38-39). Israel will finally recognize Jesus as the Messiah (Zechariah 12:10). Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered (Jeremiah 33:8; Ezekiel 11:17; Romans 11:26). There is much turmoil in Israel today. Israel is persecuted, surrounded by enemies â€“ the Palestinians, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc. This hatred and persecution of Israel is only a hint of what will happen in the end times (Matthew 24:15-21). Israel has been persecuted since it was reconstituted as a nation in 1948. Many Bible prophecy scholars believed the six-day Arab-Israeli war in 1973 was the "beginning of the end." Could what is taking place in Israel today indicate that the end is near? Yes. Does it necessarily mean the end is near? No. Jesus Himself said it best, "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come" (Matthew 24:4-6). Reproduced with permission from GotQuestions

08-03-2006, 01:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Fr. Onesimus Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 50 Rep Power: 3	Jesus Christ Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. "Violence against civilians and children"? You must be talking about the deliberate killing of civilians by Hamas and Hezb'allah. You surely cannot mean the misfortune of the civilians ACCIDENTALLY killed by the Israelis. Are you one of those people who thinks there is moral equivalency between the terrorists and Israel? __________________ Fr. Onesimus, a sinner

08-03-2006, 11:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
WPN-X Guest Posts: n/a	Pray! That's heavy LA-girl! The Apostle Paul speaks about Israel. Read Romans 11th. chapter. Many innocent people are suffering and it seems like mostly Arabs in Israel for the most part are killed according to what I read in the newspaper and on the net. King David in Psalm 122:6 told us "to pray for the 'peace' of Jerusalem' and the 'Promise' to those who do this>> they shall prosper that love thee". Amen! I let God sort out who is His elect and who isn't! Peace Be Unto You, WPN-X

08-04-2006, 12:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
Fr. Onesimus Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Denver, Colorado Posts: 50 Rep Power: 3	LA Girl: This 'Replacement Theology' is probably one of the more damaging haeresies redivivus in our time. Don't get sucked in to this tripe. As for 'turn the other cheek' Jesus is speaking about debates, not real bodily injury and killing. That's why the same 'gentle Jesus' COMMANDED His disciples to get swords! What do you suppose they used those swords for...BACK SCRATCHERS??? No. No. No. Pacifism is NOT a Christian doctrine. As for supporting violence. God Himself tells us we must defend the innocent against the wicked. This is exactly what Israel is doing. Again I ask: Are you one who sees a moral equivalencey between Hezb'allah's deliberate murder of civilians, and the 'collateral damage' which still happens when Israel goes to GREAT PAINS to NOT KILL CIVILIANS? How very broad such a moral vision must be.............. __________________ Fr. Onesimus, a sinner

08-05-2006, 05:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
Love123 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35 Rep Power: 0	The Holy City, New Jerusalem Rev 21:2 And I John saw..... The Holy City, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. Galatians 4:25-26 ...Hebrews 12:22 one is earthy and the home of the believers during the Millennial period. The other is heavenly as the New Jerusalem or Celestial City hover over the earth during the thousand year millennial reign of Christ and then becomes situated eternally upon earth at the end of the thousand year period. Revelation 21:1-8 actually follows 21:9 -22:15. This is one time the chronological outline of the book of Revelation is different. God Bless Love123

08-05-2006, 05:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Love123 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35 Rep Power: 0	Gods promises to Abram... 1. I will make you a great nation" 2. "I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse him who curses you." 3. "In you all the families of the earth shall be blessed" (Genesis 12:2,3) 4. . "All the land which you see I give to you and your descendants for ever." 5. "I will make your descendants as the dust of the earth" (great in number, Genesis 13:16). 6. "I will make nations of you, and kings shall come from you." 7. "I will establish my covenant between me and you and your descendants after you ... to be God to you and your descendants" (Genesis 17:6-8). ***Why are the Jews Gods "Chosen" People? God had a great regard for the faithfulness of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. ***The Jews were chosen, "because he loved your fathers, therefore he chose their descendants" (Deuteronomy 4:37). God said: "Understand that the LORD your God is not giving you this good land to possess because of your righteousness, for you are a stiff-necked people" (9:6). Nothing had changed centuries later, when they crucified God's Son, Jesus Christ (Acts 7:51). However, by working through one special people, God was able to draw attention to His character and purpose with the earth. He said to Moses: "For this purpose I have raised you up, that I may show my power in you, and that my name may be declared in all the earth" (Exodus 9:6). This was vitally important, for God later said: "But truly, as I live, all the earth shall be filled with the glory of the Lord" (Numbers 14:21). This wonderful promise will be fulfilled after Jesus Christ returns to the earth. Though scattered and persecuted, the Jews still exist as a nation. That is because God promised: "I will save you from afar ... I will not make a complete end of you" (Jeremiah 30:10,11). Many Bible passages speak of Israel being regathered to their own land (Jeremiah 31:10; Ezekiel 36:24-28). Many more talk about Jesus coming as king (Psalm 72; Acts 1:11). Our five "golden keys" work together to unlock God's message about "The Jews in God's Purpose". Yes, God's salvation is also offered to Gentiles (non-Jews). Jesus will rule the world from Jerusalem. "The Gentiles shall see your righteousness, and all kings your glory" (Isaiah 62:2). And it all comes down to this verse....notice there is no stipulations here By God..Ill choose you if...nope.... "For thou art an Holy people unto the Lord thy God, the Lord Thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are on the face of the earth" "For thou art an Holy people unto the Lord thy God, the Lord Thy God hath chosen thee to be a "peculiar" people unto himself, above all people that are on the face of the earth" peculiar from the hebrew Dictionary for the word "seg-ool-law"' or "hllgo" MEans "valued property" they belong to God God Bless Love123

08-05-2006, 06:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
Love123 Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 35 Rep Power: 0	What legal restrictions and great sufferings have been imposed upon Jews over the ages? Do the Gentiles wear the same badge as a Jew? The New Holy City of the New Jerusalem.............will be in Jerusalem........ Not the USA...................which is believed to be political Babylon of Revelation. Rev18. Chapter 18------ In the next twenty four verses. We witness the destruction of political Babylon. This Babylon is different from the one just discussed. Chapter 17 concerned religious Babylon, whereas chapter 18 pictures political or commercial Babylon. Religious Babylon was called ...mystery Babylon... but commercial Babylon is referred to as... Babylon the great... Religious Babylon was presented as a woman or a mother, while commercial Babylon is portrayed as a city â€“ a great city a might city and eventually a burning city. Reglious Babylon was situated on seven hills, whereas political Babylon is visible from the *seas (see verse 17, 18 and 21). Religious Babylon was destroyed by the kings of he earth (17:16) but political Babylon will be destroyed by horrendous judgments from the hand of God. When religious Babylon was destroyed he kings rejoiced. When poetical Babylon is demolished, however, the kings and merchants of he earth lament and weep for her (18:9, 15). The 144,000 represent the Twelve Tribes of Israel. Juda, Reuben, Gad, Aser, Nepthalim, Manasses, Simeon, Levi, Issachar, Zebulon, Joseph and Benjamin... Jewish names .........head up Jewish Tribes in a Jewish Nation- Israel. Rev21:12)It had a great, high wall with...(12) twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. When we walk through A Gate of Pearl in The Holy City of THE NEW JERUSALEM; we will pass by a Name Of one of the twelve tribes of Israel. God thinks the Jews are pretty special donâ€™t you think?

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