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Old 09-05-2007, 04:06 PM   #131
 
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Nathi,

I sent your .... I mean God's writings to my friend who is studying in college..." How to witness to the Jewish People". She said they will be a great help as well as she has a lot of Jewish friends who are not Messianic Jews that she is witnessing to . Thanks for that , my son God Bless.
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Not many people seem to know this, but as soon as Saddam had the victory in Kuwait under his belt - he gave the order for 98 jets laden with weapons of mass destruction to attack Israel according to his number two man in the Air force General Georges Sada. The planes were being fitted with reserve fuel tanks for the return flight for those who survived the attack. Half of the planes were to come in from the north over Jordan; and half from the south - all at once in a massive surprise attack. How many would have made it? – unknown, but if only one made it the death toll could have been very great. Saddam was also massing his forces for an all out attack on Saudi Arabia.


Both plans were canceled because of the action of George Bush 41 and the coalition in the liberation of Kuwait in 1991. Before the invasion of Baghdad General Sada also reported that 56 commercial plane loads of WMD's were flown to Syria under the guise of flood relief. Convoys were also sent. This revelation was totally ignored by the news media in keeping with their ideological editing of the news. Should a major outbreak of violence with Syria occur in the future – look out for these WMD's to reappear.


Ref: Saddam's Secrets by General Georges Sada
Gen Sada is a Christian and survived contradicting Saddam on many occasions by telling the truth and not pandering to him. He was number two in the Iraqi Air Force only because top officers in Saddam's regime had to be members of the Baath Party – and Sada refused.

If we can't believe Sada, who has never lied and was a top insider in Saddam's war machine - who can we believe?
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Jasher.... Interesting news. Thanks
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The liberal bias in the US was so bad at one point it was almost pointless to watch- things like Dan Rather saying " this is what I think should happen " instead of actually reporting the news were all to common. With the realization of the number of voting christians in the is country that has changed somewhat for the better but not near enough- and oh yeah the producers and networks have figured out they can make money producing shows and movies with christain family values but even then it is slow in coming - my point Don't expect to see news coverage of the WMD's in the US anytime soon!
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Or in Canada either.
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"What is Israel's role in the end times? Does what is happening in Israel today mean the end times are quickly approaching?"

Every time there is an explosion of conflict in or around Israel, many see it as a sure sign of the quickly approaching end times. The problem with this is that it creates a “boy that cried wolf” syndrome. We may eventually tire of the conflict in Israel, so much so that we will not recognize when true prophetically significant events occur. Conflict in Israel is not necessarily a sign of the end times…allow me to clarify.

Conflict in Israel has been a reality whenever Israel has existed as a nation. Whether it was the Egyptians, Amalekites, Midianites, Moabites, Ammonites, Amorites, Philistines, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, or Romans – the nation of Israel has always been surrounded by and persecuted by its neighbors. Why is this? According to the Bible, it is because God has a special plan for the nation of Israel, and Satan wants to defeat that plan. Satanically influenced hatred of Israel is the reason that Israel’s neighbors have always wanted to see Israel destroyed. Whether it is Sennacherib, king of Assyria, Haman, official of Persia, Hitler, leader of Nazi Germany, or Ahmadinejad, President of Iran – attempts to ultimately destroy Israel will always fail. The persecutors of Israel will come and go…but the persecution will remain. As a result, conflict in Israel cannot be considered a reliable indicator of the soon arrival of the end times.

At the same time, there will be terrible conflict in Israel during the end times. That is why the time period is known as the Tribulation, the Great Tribulation, and the “time of Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7). Here is what the Bible does say about Israel in the end times:

There will be a mass return of Jews to the land of Israel (Deuteronomy 30:3; Isaiah 43:6; Ezekiel 34:11-13; 36:24; 37:1-14).

The antichrist will make a 7-year covenant of "peace" with Israel (Isaiah 28:18; Daniel 9:27).

The Temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem (Daniel 9:27; Matthew 24:15; 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4; Revelation 11:1).

The antichrist will break his covenant with Israel. Worldwide persecution of Israel will result (Daniel 9:27; 12:1, 11; Zechariah 11:16; Matthew 24:15, 21; Revelation 12:13). Israel will be invaded (Ezekiel chapters 38-39).

Israel will finally recognize Jesus as the Messiah (Zechariah 12:10). Israel will be regenerated, restored, and regathered (Jeremiah 33:8; Ezekiel 11:17; Romans 11:26).

There is much turmoil in Israel today. Israel is persecuted, surrounded by enemies – the Palestinians, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, etc. This hatred and persecution of Israel is only a hint of what will happen in the end times (Matthew 24:15-21). Israel has been persecuted since it was reconstituted as a nation in 1948. Many Bible prophecy scholars believed the six-day Arab-Israeli war in 1973 was the "beginning of the end." Could what is taking place in Israel today indicate that the end is near? Yes. Does it necessarily mean the end is near? No. Jesus Himself said it best, "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come" (Matthew 24:4-6).

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The word “church”, from the original means “called out.” The Israelites were “called out” of Egypt. In the Old Testament they are referred to as “the congregation,” And Stephen, in his talk before the Sanhedrim, spoke of Israel as “the church in the wilderness.” “This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our father: who received the lively oracles to give unto us” (Acts 7:38). Just as Christ has many names in the Bible, so does the church.

There is but one church, for the church is Christ’s body (Eph. 1:19-23), and there is one body (Eph. 4:4). “There is one body, and one Spirit …” Christ says, “My sheep hear My voice,” “and they follow Me” (John 10:27). “The house of God” is the church of the living God” 1 Tim. 3:15). Christ and Moses are in the same fellowship (Heb. 3:2-6).

The “church in the wilderness” was the true church of Christ; for we are told “they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ" (1 Cor. 10:4).

The gospel was first preached to the gentiles, for Abraham was a Gentile, in other words, a heathen. He was brought up as a heathen, Terah was his father, and “served other gods” (Josh.24:2). So the preaching of the Gospel to the Gentiles was not a new thing in the days of Peter and Paul. The Jewish nation was taken out from among the heathen, and it is only by the preaching of the Gospel to the heathen that Israel is saved. (See Acts 25:14-18; Rom. 11: 25, 26).

The Gospel was given to Abraham in these words: “In thee shall all nations be blessed.” It should be stated here that the two words “heathen” (“Gentiles,” in R.V.) and “nations,” in verse 8, come from the same word in the Greek. In both the Hebrew and the Greek “the heathen” and “the nations” are the same. Abraham, by nature a gentile, came out of the land of Ur,-- a Chaldean or Babylonian, preached righteousness by faith.

As we know, Abraham had two sons, one by a bondwoman, and the other by a freewoman; one after the flesh, the other born after the Spirit. Many can be perplexed with respect to the "literal" and the "spiritual" seed of Abraham. Many talk as though the word "spiritual" were opposed to "literal." Actually, "spiritual" is opposed only to fleshly, or carnal, if you will. The true seed of Israel are only those who are spiritual. Christ had a spiritual body after His resurrection, yet He was real.

Who are Israel? Jacob was given the name Israel because of his victory in Christ. It's not the name that brings the blessing, but the blessing brings the name. Jacob did not possess the name by nature, nobody else can either. A Jew is syncronous with the name of Israel. An overcomer who praises the Lord. And "he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh: ... is one inwardly ...of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God" (Rom. 2:28, 29).

Gentiles, heathen in the sense of the word, have no rights to the kingdom of God in their natural condition. Only Israelites will share the kingdom with Him; for Israelites are overcomers, and the promise is, "To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with Me in My throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with My Father in His throne" (Rev. 3:21). All Israel will be saved.

God is the author of "irony." The disciples had a misconception, only literal Israelites could really be saved. To eradicate their faulty understanding, Jesus declared, "I am not sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" (Matt. 15:24). At that very moment Jesus put a blessing on a poor, despised, gentile, Cannanite woman, a descendent of the "heathen" who inhabited the land before the days of Joshua. “God is no respecter of persons, but in every nation he that feareth Him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with Him" (Acts 10:34, 35).

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Well said John thanks!
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It is really sad to see all the christians who are being fooled by this literal Israel-conflict (IMO). Christians who think that God is supporting violence against sivilian and children. The same God who told us to love our enemies and turn the other cheek?



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Bless you for this post. I believe the exact same way. I'm confused by some ministers who preach like Israel is still physcial instead of spiritual. I have tried understanding what makes them think that way but they sure have me stumped.
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Old 10-28-2007, 10:30 PM   #139
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God says israel will come back,and it has happened.justify the bible,they think they have found tha ark,also the arc of covenant,also the real mt sinia,also jesus ,s blood which i,m not happy about.the people who have doubted scripture and trusted a liar,are now grinding there teeth.then they believe another lie try to confuse God,guess what not working.
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A quote from a peacemaker:

“From the statement in Rom. 13:10, that “love worketh no ill to his neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,” it will be seen that Christian love does not possibly admit of wars and fightings. Its possession makes it impossible for one to say, as is frequently said in these days, “I have been an advocate of peace and arbitration for twenty-five years, but”—and then go on to say that under such provocation as now exists war is welcomed. “Love worketh no ill to his neighbor;” and no philosophy can ever make it appear that it does a man any good to kill him.

When the soldiers asked John the Baptist what they should do, as followers of the Lamb of God, to whom he pointed, he replied, “Do violence to no man.” Luke 3:14. Those who asked were “soldiers on service,” as we see from the margin of the Revised Version. And the margin also gives as the alternative rendering of John’s answer, “Put no man in fear.” It would be a very mild war in which this command was followed. Love never does any harm to anybody; but love is active, since it is the life of God; therefore love is always doing good. Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, “went about doing good.” End Quote

Are we not to be Patriotic?

One may ask, "What about patriotism, a love of country?" We could say then, "Christian patriotism is a love for country of his Christian birth." If I'm not out of line to say so, the Christian birth is the new birth; it's being "born again," which is being "born from above," that would be heaven.

Abraham was commanded by God to "Get thee out of thy country, ... into the land that I will show thee." And "confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. ... But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly:" Hebrews 11:13-16.

Christian patriotism is the love of the heavenly country. Then should Christians fight? YES. "Fight the good fight of faith ..." 1 Timothy 6:12.

Remember, "...the carnal mind is enmity against God" Romans 8:7. ("For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds). Casting down imaginations [human reasoning], and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God..." 2 Corinthians 10:4, 5.

"I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world." John 17:14.

May spiritual Israel be peacemakers, not warmakers. If Christians are not peacemakers, who will fulfill God's word in Christ?

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