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Old 07-12-2007, 07:45 PM   #11
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This has been puzzling to me too. I know that God created us with a free will. When God knocks at our heart we have the choice of accepting His calling or rejecting it. However, the Bible clearly says that man is born spiritually blind, having no fear of God. What makes some people run to His arms while others keep on rejecting Him, I don't know, but believe it has to be God's doing. But why God adopt some people and not others? I don't know.
Who says God created us with free will? Could you please offer some Scriptural support regarding that assertion?
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:56 PM   #12
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adam and eve.dont touch the tree in the middle,they had free will.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:04 PM   #13
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adam and eve.dont touch the tree in the middle,they had free will.
lol. That example doesn't even imply they had free will. It just says they did what they weren't supposed to do, not that they had free will.
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Old 07-12-2007, 08:16 PM   #14
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if they didnt havefree will then they couldnot have done it.
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1 John 4:19
We love, because He first loved us.

I cannot think of a verse that has faith preceeding grace. Faith is the vehicle to which grace is delivered according to Ephesians 2.
Ephesians 2:8
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

So yes, the Faith must come first
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if they didnt havefree will then they couldnot have done it.
No, all they need to have is a will to do it. They did not need free will.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:40 PM   #17
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if you dont have free will then you cant do anything what goes against said will.if i run a program and make it so it cant do something then it cant do it.we also know God was very upset so concludes we have a free will.i dont argue with God if i can help it.
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Man's Free Will to do Good or Evil

Throughout Scripture the Bible continuously instructs mankind to make righteous decisions by free will. Many persons misinterpret a few verses to arrive at the false idea that mankind does not have a free will to do good or make righteous decisions. Below are some verses which strongly show that mankind has the responsibility to exercise their free will and is commanded by God to do so.

Deuteronomy 30:15 "See, I have set before you today life and good, death and evil, 16 "in that I command you today to love the Lord your God, to walk in His ways, and to keep His commandments, His statutes, and His judgments, that you may live and multiply; and the Lord your God will bless you in the land which you go to possess. 17 "But if your heart turns away so that you do not hear, and are drawn away, and worship other gods and serve them, 18 "I announce to you today that you shall surely perish; you shall not prolong [your] days in the land which you cross over the Jordan to go in and possess. 19 "I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live

John 14:15 "If you love Me, keep My commandments.

Individual Faith is Required for Salvation

http://www.biblelife.org/election.htm#6
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Old 07-12-2007, 10:30 PM   #19
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correct some say it,s already decided about your outcome.this is wrong you change your life.with your free will.
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if you dont have free will then you cant do anything what goes against said will.if i run a program and make it so it cant do something then it cant do it.we also know God was very upset so concludes we have a free will.i dont argue with God if i can help it.
I have no idea what point you are attempting to make.
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