PreachingTruth

The Lord is a God of Love, but also a God of Wrath.

Too common is the myth that God "hates the sin but loves the sinner." This is a lie! As evident in the scriptures, there are some instances when God hates not merely the sin itself, but the individual who commits the wicked deed. Yes, it is true that our God is a God of Love; indeed, His Love is beyond our comprehension, yet He is also a God of Hate, and His Hatred is Holy!

The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity. (Psalm 5:5)

As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid. For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. (Romans 9:13-15)

The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth. (Psalm 11:5)

All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters. (Hosea 9:15)

And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them. (Leviticus 20:23)

Many will say, "I cannot agree!" But it is true nonetheless. To those who disagree, I offer this challenge: if I am wrong, the burden of refuting the passages of scripture posted above rests upon your shoulders. Good luck.

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Humble Christian

I believe there is nothing we can do to make God HATE us. If God hates ALL the sinners then we are all hated because we all fall short....God is the only one that is Good. Heck he (God) loves sinners (us) so much he sent his son to die for our sins, he paid our price....he died for the sinners not the righteous. Thank goodness for this new covenant.

All praise to God and his infinite love, forgiveness and mercy.

This isn't to say that there aren't consequences for sin, he gave us his law and will judge by his word.

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NoDoubt

God never said He hates your everyday sinner, the unsaved individual. He hates the workers of iniquity. Iniquity, while described in the dictionary as "a gross injustice" or "wicked sin" is not just that.

There is sin - doign wrong, falling short of the glory of God.
There is rebellion - knowing what is right, but sinning anyway for the pleasure.
Then there is iniquity - More like "twisting" or "warping" to say that the sin commited was not sin at all, throwing it in God's face and saying "this isn't sin!" knowing full well it is.

Homosexuality is a sin, but the group out there saying it's a perfectly acceptable lifestyle is a group living in iniquity. Woe to those who not only practice, but teach iniquity, for the teachers of iniquity are going to be in a BAD spot at the judgement.

So I do believe one can get on God's "hate list", but the faith of a believer would keep them from even wanting to do the things to get them there. Your conscience would tear you apart, and if you continued in the iniquity until your conscience was seared, then you are not saved.

Even then, redemption is possible, however. The only unpardonable sin is the blaspheming of the Holy Spirit, which I believe to mean the complete rejection of God's call on ones life. The unforgivable sin being to ignore the Holy Spirit as He tries to work in you for the sake of continuing ones path of sin.

MartyLK

This is what I felt the people at my work were doing to me. They seemed to be justifying hatred and revenge as though they had a right to do it and seemed to keep a clear conscience about it by the display their attitude. The Christian doesn't have the right to take revenge or..."payback"...as they call it. The Christian must turn to God in prayer for strength and courage to continue on when they are mistreated.

Realistically, the only unforgivable sin is unbelief. The person that would blaspheme the Holy Spirit is already an unbeliever and would remain an unbeliever by a hardening of the heart where they would never seek forgiveness, otherwise God would forgive.

Kenaniah

I believe that Christ himself said that a house divided against itself can not stand, when he cast the demons (legion) out of the man into the pigs. If this is the case, how can God be a God of love and a God of hate?

I'm afraid I will have to disagree with your interpretation of those verses, for God came to save ALL sinners, of which I am the worst (1 Timothy).

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MartyLK

If you don't mind me asking, how can God be both fully man and fully God, at the same time?

What is never having a beginning or end like?

There are things our gray matter isn't allowed to understand. Here are some of his words:

Proverbs 6:16-19 NIV
There are six things the LORD hates,
seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes,
a lying tongue,
hands that shed innocent blood,
18 a heart that devises wicked schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil,
19 a false witness who pours out lies
and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.



Hosea 9:15 NIV

"Because of all their wickedness in Gilgal,
I hated them there.
Because of their sinful deeds,
I will drive them out of my house.
I will no longer love them;
all their leaders are rebellious.

Leviticus 20:23 NIV
You must not live according to the customs of the nations I am going to drive out before you. Because they did all these things, I abhorred them.


Psalm 11:5 NIV
The LORD examines the righteous,
but the wicked and those who love violence
his soul hates

WasLost

To be certain, God is vengefull. I am paying for sins in ways I never thought possible. My life is in shambles. I fully believe that despite God's attempt to save me, he's also making it clear how angry he is with me.

WasLost (feeling StillLost)

PreachingTruth

We are in agreement. Biblically, it is clear (generally speaking) that the Lord loves the unsaved. His hatred is directed toward a select few. So who is hated by God? To my knowledge, there is only one instance where an individual is mentioned in the scriptures as being hated by God. That would be Esau. The Canaanites were also hated. Surely, it was their sacrifice of human infants to Molech which kindled the wrath of God.

My point here is to demonstrate that the Lord does hate some people. But as I predicted there are a few people in this thread who cannot agree. They are taking issue not with me, but with the scriptures.

- PreachingTruth

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PreachingTruth

I know what you are feeling. Often, I am overwhelmed by what I have done. I must remind myself that I have repented and am therefore forgiven. There should be no guilt. When there is, I ask the Lord to relieve me of it. Leave your burden at the Cross, my friend. Christ took care of it 2000 years ago.

Of course, there are consequences to our sins, and God will sometimes punish us. But He punishes His children in Love, not hate. In the same way a parent punishes their child for example.

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