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in the new testament jesus who is our salvation says God quite a lot.he also says God made both men and women.so if you look back to genesis only 1 God does this,the other makes women from a rib ,then tells you where gold is.!quite obvious who the good guy is.
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Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God. Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. Jesus was the Word- Jesus was with God- Jesus was God- all things were made by God thru His Son Jesus |
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how can jesus be God?who did jesus pray to?why did God talk to jesus if he was the same?you confuse me!was jesus praying for himself?they both have Gods spirit so jesus is the son.i think i would believe jesus,He said it.and jesus was very careful in what he said.
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You are trying to understand something incomprehensible to humans. Creation is finite; we have a beginning and an end. What God did in Christ is not possible for us to understand; how God can be both human and God at the same time...both spirit and body.
His spirit is God and his body is God. He has a human nature, also. He is fully God and fully human. What was done in Christ, Satan never could have dreamed of. Satan thought of himself as very smart and wise. Satan thought with all certainty when he deceived Adam and Eve, that he destroyed the creation and all of us with it and that God could not bring about a remedy but God showed Satan just exactly how smart he was. Nothing is impossible with God. Not even becoming both fully human and remaining fully God at the same time. Christ isn't 50% human and 50% God, or any other equation. He is 100% human and 100% God. To try to rationalize it is to fall away from faith and get caught in a snare of the Devil. God is the only eternal being...without beginning or end. His creation; Lucifer...also known now as Satan, all the angels, the world, all people...the entire universe and everything in it, has had a beginning. We all had a beginning so we cannot fathom the things of the eternal God. Do not get caught up in trying to prove God or Christ. Believe and live in faith. Anything else will cause eternal death. Last edited by MartyLK; 05-23-2007 at 12:52 AM. |
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Yes I can see that you are confused- as I already explained Jesus though God walked as a man to show us what we can do when submitted completely to the Fathers will-
As you can see God created everything- but He still says let us- that is the Father Son and Holy Ghost- if you don't believe the bible why do you read it? I have demonstrated this to you over and over again but you seem to have a mental block on this issue- if you need help let me know- Larry |
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If seemed short with you in anyway please forgive me brother-
I am not sure what you are seeing but it is important to remember that the Lord walked the earth in humility and meekness as an example to us not as a sign of weakness: Php 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Php 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Php 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: Php 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. If Jesus was equal to God then He is God for none other can make this claim- there is no other who is in the form of God for there is none like our God- One awesome God- three manifestations of His Glory- Jesus Himself said "Before Abraham was I AM"- the Jews knew what He was saying and wanted to stone Him for blasphemy- He was claiming to be their God the great I AM- He truely was Emmanuel-litterally God with us- does this make Him small-no- It took far more strength for love to stay on the cross and pay our price then it would have to come down- God is gentle and merciful to those He loves: Mat 12:20 A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench, till he send forth judgment unto victory. He came to restore that which was lost - He did that with love - that is the side of God few knew until His sacrifice opened the way- there is nothing small or weak in our Lord and on His return He will not be manifest as a gentle Lamb but as an Almighty conquering King ! Last edited by Boanerges; 05-23-2007 at 01:46 PM. |
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Smellycat I think it might be helpful to review the Names of God- the Hebrews had many Names for God, because He was so awesome they could not describe Him therefore they began to give Him Names according to the attributes He displayed to them- when Moses asked God " whom shall I say sent me?" God's reply was " tell them I AM sent you"- below is a link to a thread with that info- I pray you have a good day in Jesus Name Larry
The Names of God |
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i do understand your posts,and i understand what others say about jesus.but i believe jesus words more because he never sinned.that speaks volumes,so if jesus says only the father is truly good,to me thats respect for his father.
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