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    actually.it seems pretty much the same.

    faith/belief.
    repentance.
    baptism.


    i forgot the last two.

    but the first three seems okayish.


    Sorry,but I'll go off topic a little,
    why do we have to say the sinner's prayer at altar call?
    It wasn't mentioned in the bible?
    You just don't forget the dead..

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    That is a very old argument. The "sinners prayer is not in the bible verbatim but the principles certainly are:

    Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

    Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

    Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be
    saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nails+1cross=4GIVEN View Post
    actually.it seems pretty much the same.

    faith/belief.
    repentance.
    baptism.


    Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
    Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.




    i forgot the last two.

    but the first three seems okayish.


    Sorry,but I'll go off topic a little,
    why do we have to say the sinner's prayer at altar call?
    It wasn't mentioned in the bible?
    Of course it seems the same. As I explained to you earlier little sister that is how a cult operates. Truth, truth, 1/2 truth. Truth, truth, lie. If you mix in the poison slow enough you won't even know you have swallowed it until it is to late.
    Playing with (demonic) fire will always get you burnt.

    If you want some info into how this cult operates, it's deception and how it purposefully leads one from God's grace and into works based religious bondage take some time to study the links here:

    Mormonism, Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints, examined and documented.

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    Sorry,but I'll go off topic a little,
    why do we have to say the sinner's prayer at altar call?
    It wasn't mentioned in the bible?
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    Amandaz ..... I think it is because if we openly confess before men that we are a sinner , somehow it does have more meaning in our lives . Not to say that one cannot recieve Jesus any where and invite Him into their hearts because many have received Him in other places .

    I guess they do that in church so that the new believer can get material to help them in their new walk and also people who will mentor them .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nails+1cross=4GIVEN View Post
    actually.it seems pretty much the same.

    faith/belief.
    repentance.
    baptism.


    i forgot the last two.

    but the first three seems okayish.

    This is what they teach. It's not the same at all.

    In order to reach this exalted state of godhood, a person must first become a good Mormon, pay a full ten percent tithe to the Mormon church, follow various laws and ordinances of the church, and be found worthy. At this point, they receive a temple recommend whereupon, the Mormon is allowed to enter their sacred temples in order to go through set of secret rituals: baptism for the dead, celestial marriage, and various oaths of secrecy and commitment. Additionally, four secret handshakes are taught so the believing Mormon, upon entering the third level of Mormon heaven, can shake hands with god in a certain pattern. This celestial ritual is for the purpose of permitting entrance into the highest level of heaven. For those who achieve this highest of heavens, exaltation to godhood awaits them. Then, he or she, will be permitted to have his or her own planet and be the god of his own world and the Mormon system will be expanded to other planets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nails+1cross=4GIVEN View Post
    Revelation 22:18 (New International Version)

    18I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book.

    um,I think I've mentioned before that I was gonna go look around in the local LDS,and being the nosy little kid I was,I did

    thing is,I was reading through revelation and this verse caught my eyes cos the mormons had their book of mormon? I'm just wondering if this was talking about them,or the catholics? (cathos have extra chapters in the bible,I think).

    and well,it's a different concept for mormons right?cos their 'extra chapters' were not in the bible? I asked the missionaries about this particular verse,and they said something along the line of ''it's not to be taken literally.'' because according to them,the bible was not chronologically arranged,and that hebrews was supposedly after revelation.

    so last question is,does it matter if the bible was chronologically arranged?


    I just saw this thread.
    Back to the original post, but I’ve added verse 19.

    Rev 22:18 I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto them, God shall add unto him the plagues which are written in this book:
    Rev 22:19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the tree of life, and out of the holy city, which are written in this book.

    Notice in verse 18 it says, “the prophecy of this book”.
    And in verse 19 it says, “the book of this prophecy”.

    Many believe, me included, that the two different wordings are referring to the book of revelations, and the entire Bible as a whole. It doesn’t matter much who the author of any particular book is. It is all the inspired word of God. If you add or remove anything from any book of the Bible, you are acting as God’s editor. God doesn’t need an editor. He can not be improved upon. His word is perfect from beginning to end.

    As far as the Catholics having more books in their Bible? I don’t know if the two above verses apply to that. I think it mainly applies to the meaning of what God says in the Bible. I don’t think Catholics are going to be cursed for having extra books in their Bible.

    And the LDS, and the Mormons?
    Well… that’s a whole other story.

    And as far as the Bible being chronologically arranged?
    Well, it isn’t, but that’s just about things as they happen in our time being put in order.
    God wrote the Bible, remember?
    And God was there when the Bible was put together.
    God really isn’t concerned much with “time” as we think of it.
    The Bible, as it is, works very well.
    Blessings to all

    Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the LORD,
    thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope.


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    The warning is was given in Galatians and it is clear.

    Galatians 1
    6 I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, 7 which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.

    Trust only in His Word.

    I believe this warning was given for a reason. If an angel was incapable of giving a false revelation the Holy Spirit inspired warning here would not have been given. i believe this warning was also a kind of prophecy, did not muhammad claim his revelation came from an angel? it may well have come from an angel. The book of revelation also reveals something about the angels.

    Revelation 12
    7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him


    The greatest protection from the great deciever and his angels is ones love for the Gospel truth. The love for the Gospel message of the atonement of our sins by the rightious act of the Messiah Jesus, That through reliance and trust in His rightiousness we are saved.


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    no offence,but could you guys have been wrong?
    this is LDS,not FLDS in texas..
    they have been reformed.
    could they not have just been another member of the family?
    You just don't forget the dead..

    Coincidence is when God chooses to remain anonymous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nails+1cross=4GIVEN View Post
    no offence,but could you guys have been wrong?
    this is LDS,not FLDS in texas..
    they have been reformed.
    could they not have just been another member of the family?
    Ask them if they teach what I posted above.

    This thread is heartbreaking.
    Last edited by Tyler1; 01-04-2009 at 05:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nails+1cross=4GIVEN View Post
    no offence,but could you guys have been wrong?
    this is LDS,not FLDS in texas..
    they have been reformed.
    could they not have just been another member of the family?
    No offense but anti-Christ is anti-Christ. We are not nor will we ever be little gods, Jesus is not Satan's brother but is God Himself. The Father is not one of a race of God's but is the One true Living God and there is none like Him. Neither did God turn sinners black nor do we need special Temple underwear,God doesn't live on a mythical planet called Kolob and the "revelations" of Joeshep Smith is not part of the bible. If you haven't heard this stuff yet that is normal and you need to be patient for the really off the wall stuff.
    Your choice to embrace this corruption is a tragic mistake little one.

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