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Old 08-25-2008, 06:16 PM   #11
 
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Also I believe your definition of blasphemy is confused.
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Israel's Messianic Jews: Some Call it a Miracle - Inside Israel - CBN News
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Old 08-25-2008, 06:46 PM   #13
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You may have forgotten this about Abraham's kids-
In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
So it is definitely not talking about the children of Ishmael although they too can be saved.
You're missing the forest for the trees.
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You are entitled to your opinion but you seem to have an animosity that is blinding your heart. I will pray for you, have a great day.BL
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A tiny fraction of 1% of the Jews of Israel are Christian, according to that article. I wouldn't expect demographics like that except in the most anti-Christian regimes in the world. Most Arab countries have more Christians than that, in spite of not being the world's favorite destination for traveling Christian Americans. The Israeli territory was 20% Christian before Israel took over.

And, indeed, the Israeli government is militantly anti-Christian. Persecution of Christ paid for by American Christians.

The article fails to mention that according to the Israeli government and other jewish authorities, a Jew is not Christian. Messianic Jews are no longer Jews. The article describes them as what is judaized Christians.
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You are entitled to your opinion but you seem to have an animosity that is blinding your heart. I will pray for you, have a great day.BL
You said, "You may have forgotten this about Abraham's kids-"

Abraham's kids were the subject of my statements!
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This was all really very interesting. Did I read right that Abraham's children became the Arabs? So, when did the Jews start to be called Jews? I guess just like any country, if you came from Africa, you are an African. But, where, exactly did the Jews come from? This may be too complicated to explain. Is there some study on this subject that I could just read? I really have little understanding on the lineage of Christ and need to make a study of it I guess. I hate not understanding a post.
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Abraham had 2 sons. One was the work of his flesh trying to fulfill God;s promise- this was Ishmael. The other (Issac) came only when it was beyond the strength of Abraham and Sarah to perform it. Issac was the choice of God to fulfill His promise.
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Abraham had 2 sons. One was the work of his flesh trying to fulfill God;s promise- this was Ishmael. The other (Issac) came only when it was beyond the strength of Abraham and Sarah to perform it. Issac was the choice of God to fulfill His promise.
Now I remember. Abraham laid with his wife's hand maiden against God's will and so Ishmael became the Arab people? Because Issac would have become the Jewish people? Was Sarah Abraham's wife and they were promised a child in her old age, but didn't wait long enough for that to happen? I'm so embarrassed that I don't remember this story!
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So if there has to be a major conversion of the Jews to belief in Jesus as their Messiah, then we are far away from Christs second coming unless a major event or miracle happens which awakens the Jewish nation.
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