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Old 09-01-2008, 07:18 AM   #11
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Yes, take a look- I went and got my antique 1611 KJV-

This is Gen. 6 from the first 5-6 verses. Notice the wording and form of language used-

KJV 1611- Gen. 6:4-

"There were Nephilium in the earth in those dayes;...."

KJV 1954-

4- "There were giants in the earth in those days;..."

See the differences? in the very first editions of the 1611 version, they were still printing the original Hebrew word "Nephilium" that comes from the root word- "Nephal", which means, "fallen ones, evil ones, demons, demonic spirits, Satan" etc.

Later versions the word was changed to "Giants".

The word "days" is also written different. "sonnes of God" is another from the old 1611. "son's of God" from newer.

6:17- KJV 1611- "And behold I, euen I doe bring a flood of waters vpon the earth,..."

KJV 1954- " And behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth.

And the variations are incredible between NIT, NIV, NTA, Family Bible versions, Amplified versions, etc also.

But, don't be fooled. The Book of Mormon, since the mid to late 1800s has also been revised and changed just as many times. I also have 3 of them dating from the 1970s back to I think its the 1880s, I'd have to look again to be sure. But I know a Supervisory Mormon that goes around and helps to teach LDS followers how to teach or preach to followers in strengthening thier beliefs in Mormonisn.

Actually, he has become one of my better friends, as he is at least honest with me and our discussions about religion. The LDs followers like to claim mostly, they are not Mormons. All the while Mormons all admit they belong the the~ "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints".

Hehe, try to figure that one out folks. And they call us weird.

What floored him the most tho, was my bringing up documented proof of thier BoM being revised so many times and the changed I'd picked alone, without going thru it all for them.

Mormons, Jehovah Witness' , Ba'ahaulah, Christian Scientists, Scientologists and more Cults here do not like me very much. For years, when they'd stop by or invite me to thier special meetings etc, they have grown to dislike my willingness to stand up and ask questions, then use Scripture to ruin thier nights or visits' teachings.

That Mormon Supervisor tho, I think I got him hooked with interest in me. He said he's never had anyone bombard him with so much info- (I used Scripture, then also historical copies of originals to back up teachings, changes, revisions etc).

Mormons are no different than us for historical changing. As much as Christianity has changed in its doctrinal beliefs of God's Word, we won't see as much with BoM because its not as old, but still has plenty of changing since the first drafts were written. Now, I don't have any of the first "books" of Mormon, but do have copies of the written draft of it before it was put into print.

But, I have no idea which draft it is, since there were 4 diverse so called "original drafts" of it found now. Who knows, maybe more were since about 4-5 years ago was last I heard the number found.

If would like more history on any of this, let me know. I'll do what I can to provide.

Enough said.

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With the Holy Spirit dwelling within every Child of God, there should be no need to be teaching each other, if we are letting the Holy Spirit guide and teach us as we read and learn Scriptures.


Yes , I see this as absolutely true and we should be asking and letting the Holy Spirit guide and teach us but what about the week persons who don't rely on the Holy Spirit ? Don't you think that it is still our responsibility to teach them or I guess maybe a better word would be to encourage them.

I am learning ultimately to rely on the Holy Spirit more and more in my own life instead of taking everything that people say but sifting through as the Holy Spirit gives me discernment.

I still think that we need our church leaders and pastors to teach us but ultimately as you said the Holy Spirit is our first teacher.
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