oogii

i agree but there is a reason why Jesus said even the elect would be deceived...now who are the elect?now to my understanding the elect are the strongest,more experienced christians...just be carefull my friends

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Lord,How can it be
You were the one on the cross
Lifted for all our shame?
How can it be
The scars in Your hands are for me?
You are the king of all"

Kevin

Ok, lets take a more positive outlook on this thread.

All false teachings attack a number of things about Jesus Christ.

> His deity is attacked
> His claims to be the messiah are attacked or denied
> His physical body is sometimes denied
> The events concerning his second coming are denied, disputed or twisted.

Lets start with His deity. We all know and acknowledge that Jesus is God Himself in a human body.

Lets see what Jesus said about Himself.

1. Jesus has the authority to forgive sin. Mathew 9:6
2. Jesus has intimate knowledge of God. Mathew 11:27
3. Jesus has all authority in heaven and earth. Mathew 28:18
4. Jesus is eternal. Mathew 28:20
5. Jesus has always been and created all things. John 1:1-3
6. Jesus came in the flesh (physical body) and demonstrated the glory of God. John 1:14
7. Jesus knows everything about us. John 1: 47-48
8. Jesus is all knowing. John 2. 24-25
9. Jesus has the power to heal. John 5: 1-19
10. Jesus gives eternal life. John 5: 21-25
11. Jesus is the door to eternal life. John 10:9
12. Jesus is God. John 10:27-33
13. Jesus and the Father (God) are the same. John 14: 6-11
14. Jesus rose in a physical body and was still God. John 20: 27-28
15. Jesus is the Messiah. John 20:31


From this it is pretty clear who Jesus is, so any teaching that moves away from this foundation is then false and antichrist in nature.

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oogii

I agree
Jesus' teachings are also attacked for eg people won't take a whole verse or a chapter and look for the message, rather they'll take 5 words from the verse that sounds nice but has got nothing to do with the true message...
For eg the message will talk on things we will recieve in heaven but we are taught we will recieve them on earth...
many of Gods people will live in poverty but when they leave this earth they will live in Glory!!!
Peace

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Lord,How can it be
You were the one on the cross
Lifted for all our shame?
How can it be
The scars in Your hands are for me?
You are the king of all"

Charles Kamau

Hello,
"Manifest Sons of God!" "Kingdom now!"
Maybe you need not heed any little bit to this. Lets call it 'junk'. They should actually labour or even seek to pay to have your attention.-and still fail. There are to rise up more of such, who would even have a performing faith.

Boanerges

oogii Jesus did not say that if you read the whole verse.

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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman

Mellow

I don't like reading books on matters that don't support the bible.

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oogii

math 24:24 Jesus says if it is possible even the elect will be deceived... i'm not sure if its possible but i think sowho the elect are i dont know... i apologise for my above post...

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"
Lord,How can it be
You were the one on the cross
Lifted for all our shame?
How can it be
The scars in Your hands are for me?
You are the king of all"

Boanerges

You have nothing to apologize for. Do you know that in pre WW2 Germany much of the Chruch supported Hitler. He stood for righteousness in a corrupt society, he said all the right things and won the nations heart. All the while he was a wolf in sheeps clothing and it was only after he got the power he sought that people noticed his fangs.
In truth if we stay close to our Lord we will hear His voice and not follow another (red emphasis mine):
Joh 10:27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.

Joh 10:1 Truly, truly, I say to you, He who does not enter into the sheepfold by the door, but going up by another way, that one is a thief and a robber.
Joh 10:2 But he who enters in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.
Joh 10:3 The doorkeeper opens to him, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
Joh 10:4 And when he puts forth his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him. For they know his voice.
Joh 10:5 And they will not follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.
Joh 10:6 Jesus spoke this parable to them, but they did not understand what it was which He spoke to them.
Joh 10:7 Then Jesus said to them again, Truly, truly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep.
Joh 10:8 All who came before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them.
Joh 10:9 I am the door. If anyone enters in by Me, he shall be saved and shall go in and out and find pasture.
Joh 10:10 The thief does not come except to steal and to kill and to destroy. I have come so that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
Joh 10:11 I am the Good Shepherd. The Good Shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.
Joh 10:12 But he who is a hireling and not the shepherd, who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and runs away. And the wolf catches them and scatters the sheep.
Joh 10:13 The hireling flees, because he is a hireling and does not care for the sheep.
Joh 10:14 I am the Good Shepherd, and I know those that are Mine, and I am known by those who are Mine.

Our calling is to stay close to theMasters heart and listen to His voice There is no fear in that and He has promised us this-

Joh 10:28 And I give to them eternal life, and they shall never ever perish, and not anyone shall pluck them out of My hand.
Joh 10:29 My Father who gave them to me is greater than all, and no one is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

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Anything that dims my vision for Christ, or takes away my taste for Bible study, or cramps me in my prayer life, or makes Christian work difficult, is wrong for me; and I must, as a Christian turn away from it. – J. Wilbur Chapman

oogii

thanks i've seen all those verses but i do think there is a lot of false things,people,lies and deception in christianity leading people astray and away but i've realised that its not my job to pick them out thanks to you guys

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Lord,How can it be
You were the one on the cross
Lifted for all our shame?
How can it be
The scars in Your hands are for me?
You are the king of all"

Ramsey

You should pick them out for yourself! always! don't for one second think that you should let others do the job for you!
Learn to discern, it will save you your life. Ask God to give you that power, He will !! It's one of the most important Christian gifts. As you grow in faith you will experience it more it's amazing.

When others warn us then that's a blessing from God, the wicked is revealed by Truth. Amen

Now I'm someone who believes that when someone is truly saved and preaches the same way that the apostle preached, then they will never fall away from the Faith into another Faith. Maybe stumble but remain in the faith.

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Grace, Peace and Safety to you all my brothers and sisters