a third of angels rebelled

smellycat · 07-09-2008, 09:17 PM

and this third have caused havoc.i guess they must have changed everything.

.i guess they think they can hide in the past.

smellycat · 07-09-2008, 09:21 PM

i guess they asked to go back to the beginning etc.

Boanerges · 07-09-2008, 11:52 PM

I am guessing they were not the brightest bulbs on the tree!

Jon-Marc · 07-10-2008, 02:50 PM

I've always wondered if that 1/3 followed Lucifer willingly, or if he had the power to force them to go with him. I just tend to be curious about things that don't really matter.

Ramsey · 07-10-2008, 04:46 PM

Did he force them or did they go willingly? hmm.. what if God cast them out because they were Lucifer's followers? With no choice, they probably have committed sin also, so they were cast out all together.

A better question is this, how did they sin ?
If they had spiritual bodies and were in Heaven, how did they sin? This is a tough question.. since we're going to inherit these spiritual bodies.. since there was no one other than Lucifer that became evil, then how did he become in the first place while being in heaven and in peace.. Did God will it? I don't know.......

smellycat · 07-10-2008, 05:08 PM

sons of God took the daughters of men.abusing the power they had over humans.

Boanerges · 07-10-2008, 05:13 PM

Lucifer has I trouble. I will be exalted, I will lift my throne - He wanted to be God. Eve fell for the same trap- you will be like God. As far as the angels and how they sinned it is just speculation but Lucifer must have appealed to their sense of self, their pride and their desire to be exalted. This was the first sin and the root of all sin ever since- the big I, I, I me, me, me.

smellycat · 07-10-2008, 05:21 PM

genesis says the sons of God took the daughters of men,any they wanted.temptation of angels.

JeremiahD84 · 07-10-2008, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ramsey

Did he force them or did they go willingly? hmm.. what if God cast them out because they were Lucifer's followers? With no choice, they probably have committed sin also, so they were cast out all together.

A better question is this, how did they sin ?
If they had spiritual bodies and were in Heaven, how did they sin? This is a tough question.. since we're going to inherit these spiritual bodies.. since there was no one other than Lucifer that became evil, then how did he become in the first place while being in heaven and in peace.. Did God will it? I don't know.......

Well first sin is simply disobeying God.
Second, Lucifer and all the other angels committed the unforgiveable sin. They were witnesses to the glory of God and yet they still rebelled.
The same thing nearly happened to the pharisees; God was in their presence, they witnessed His miracles and they still denied Him and claimed His power was of the devil.
Also, the Bible says that pride entered Lucifers heart and he wanted to be God. He tried to take Gods throne. But our God is awesome and much too powerful to be removed from His throne!!

Ramsey · 07-10-2008, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

Lucifer has I trouble. I will be exalted, I will lift my throne - He wanted to be God. Eve fell for the same trap- you will be like God. As far as the angels and how they sinned it is just speculation but Lucifer must have appealed to their sense of self, their pride and their desire to be exalted. This was the first sin and the root of all sin ever since- the big I, I, I me, me, me.

very nice. I read somewhere today about someone how he keeps using the "I" to show his good works rather than giving glory to God.
What you wrote has really helped me understand more

Praise the Lord.

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