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Old 07-03-2008, 08:07 PM   #1
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Bible GOD creates evil

1 John 1:5 -- This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Isaiah 45:7 -- I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

Does anyone know why GOD creates evil or allows evil things to happen to good people?

If there is no darkness in HIM then why does HE want and desire to allow evil things to happen? For what purpose? A God who is all light could simply administer His righteous justice of light upon evil, not create evil itself. Not make matters worse but stop them in its tracks.

Genesis 2:9 -- And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

We also see in the garden of Eden God made the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil. So HE did, in fact, create Evil. Its first appearance was on the tree. In the form of a fruit which when digested would permeate the whole system into sin nature and feed knowledge of sin into the brain. Why didn't HE just make a tree of Good knowledge only? Then none of us would have ever had to sin. Let's face it -- no one needs evil in the universe. GOD made that clear that evil is useless -- "Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire." If Evil is useless then why did GOD create it in the first place? HE had useless fruit on HIS tree.

Something I am confused about.
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Acts 4:12 -- Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

John 3:17 -- For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 14:6 -- Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Whoever makes fun of these Scriptures is not going to have the last laugh, I can guarantee you that! This a very serious matter of utmost gravity and sincerity. Your life hangs in the balance. Believe on the name of the Lord and be saved. Read what Romans 10 says above and do that proceedure. Become one of HIS saints.

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Does anyone know why GOD creates evil or allows evil things to happen to good people?
God does not create evil. The evil that surrounds us is man made, and man is the only one to answer. Had God not given us the choice in the beginning, then it might be a totally different situation.

God is not to blame....WE ARE!
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:19 PM   #3
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I have a quick answer to your question...maybe too simplistic, but here we go anyway...

The absense of light is? dark of course.

God is good...He doesn't merely DO good...He IS good

So the absense of God is the opposite of good...do you follow?

So evil would be the absense of God.

We've separated ourselves from God, so evil corrupts our minds, and we can't comprehend this.
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yes God created evil,it,s called free will.if you want to be chained look up satan,he will chain you.
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He created a way for us to create evil ourselves, by free will. It's a part of what makes this creation so incredibly complex and beautiful. But any evil and anyone who is evil, is not of Him. That's their choice. Love is only what it is when someone CHOOSES by will to love you right? He wanted that from us.

We are not good enough, only by Jesus being our representative in heaven are we able to be saved and have a place in heaven.
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yes God created evil,it,s called free will.if you want to be chained look up satan,he will chain you.
So you are saying that free will is evil?

What does everyone think about that? Is that even Biblical?
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Acts 4:12 -- Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

John 3:17 -- For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

John 14:6 -- Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Whoever makes fun of these Scriptures is not going to have the last laugh, I can guarantee you that! This a very serious matter of utmost gravity and sincerity. Your life hangs in the balance. Believe on the name of the Lord and be saved. Read what Romans 10 says above and do that proceedure. Become one of HIS saints.
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I have a quick answer to your question...maybe too simplistic, but here we go anyway...

The absense of light is? dark of course.

God is good...He doesn't merely DO good...He IS good

So the absense of God is the opposite of good...do you follow?

So evil would be the absense of God.

We've separated ourselves from God, so evil corrupts our minds, and we can't comprehend this.
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So you are saying that free will is evil?

What does everyone think about that? Is that even Biblical?
I think what SC means is not that free will IS evil, but that through free will we have the choice to chose evil or not.

Sometimes you just have to take SC's word one-by-one.
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yes it is scriptual,scripture tells you about satan and how he was perfect,until iniquaty was found.so we know satan was jealous of God.free will.
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free will isn,t evil,but to a individual it can be.
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Jesus made everything and without Him was nothing made. Without good and evil there is no choice to be made and thus no reason to respond to loves call.
Everything in creation was made as God spoke it into existance and all things are upheld by the power of His hand. Nothing can exist unless He created it and allowed it:

Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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