spiritual battle

smellycat · 05-08-2008, 09:24 PM

you have to want Jesus to help you.then you will learn why society is like it is.people can be really good people but they need to know what is happening and why.

Atonement · 05-08-2008, 09:33 PM

With respect to that. We are told by Jesus to preach the Gospel.

Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

Boanerges · 05-08-2008, 09:37 PM

Isa 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.

Mike if we but preach His Word, if we but share His love no enemy can stand against us as God Himself fights our battles. When people transgress against me I am quick to forgive and fast to pray for them for my heavenly Father is very protective of me.
We speak the truth in love- without the love it is no longer His truth- as we do this seed is sown. We are not necessarily responsible for the results. We move when and where His Spirit leads, lives will be changed and He will get all the glory.

smellycat · 05-08-2008, 09:46 PM

i see children taught for 14+ years,where i live i was never taught the bible.i never knew about a spiritual war.i never knew my life depended on my actions.the question is why.?

Atonement · 05-08-2008, 09:53 PM

I believe because no one ever shared the Good News with you??

smellycat · 05-08-2008, 10:08 PM

i must have been a day dreamer at school.i thought this place was going to be Good.then after years of corruption i faultered.then i realised why this place is so bad.

dermasse · 05-08-2008, 10:41 PM

Ultimate, eternal reality is the spiritual world. The spiritual world consists of a here-to-fore, a war within which every human is a soldier. The problem is that most humans have no idea that the spiritual world exists and of those who acknowledge its existence, few recognize the war.

As Bob Dylan sang, you're going to have to serve somebody. It may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you're going to have to serve somebody.

There is a constant battle and our minds are the battlefield. Satan puts ideas into our minds to battle the Holy Spirit and other Christians. We either listen and follow through with these ideas or we submit to the Holy Spirit and battle against the enemy. That's why Paul said, "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places." (Ephesians 6:12)

smellycat · 05-08-2008, 10:50 PM

why are children not told.?

dermasse · 05-08-2008, 11:03 PM

I can only assume it is because they either have no spiritual mentors or their spiritual mentors are not aware. My children are very aware of the spiritual world and the battle field of the mind. When she was 8, one of my daughters could see spiritual beings in battle with her physical eyes. I was pastoring a church at the time and was under a constant spiritual attack. She would warn my wife and I when the "dragons" were around. She saw demons as dragons and angels as lions. I could tell stories, but that's a different thread.

PrayerWorrior52 · 05-09-2008, 04:02 AM

I think children are not told of spiritual warfare b/c when they are young. it just seems traditional to teach them loving stories about God. all the Basic "famous'' stories in the Bible.. as they get older, then it seems like teachers start adding parts about Gods wrath and spiritual warfare..

i do not agree with this.. but it seems to be how almost everyone teaches it..
draw in the young with love.. then when they are "old enough" fill them in on the rest b/c they can handle it then.

as i said. i do not agree with this. but it seems that way. and likewise in life..
you do not teach your children about war when they are 3 and 4. b/c you want them to be in a loving invironment. you dont feel they are ready to know certain things. then when they get older you start to reveal things to them that you feel they are ready to know.

and at the same time as i believe that we should tell younger children about spiritual warfare.. how young is too young??? i mean.. at what age do you really think a child can handle the concept of spiritual warefare... at an age when they are still strugling with the aspecs of Love??

Just a question you know..

05-08-2008, 09:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
smellycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: uk Posts: 4,867 Rep Power: 6	spiritual battle you have to want Jesus to help you.then you will learn why society is like it is.people can be really good people but they need to know what is happening and why. __________________ GOOD BAD SALVATION

05-08-2008, 09:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
Boanerges Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St Rose LA Posts: 14,654 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 16	Isa 59:19 So shall they fear the name of the LORD from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him. Mike if we but preach His Word, if we but share His love no enemy can stand against us as God Himself fights our battles. When people transgress against me I am quick to forgive and fast to pray for them for my heavenly Father is very protective of me. We speak the truth in love- without the love it is no longer His truth- as we do this seed is sown. We are not necessarily responsible for the results. We move when and where His Spirit leads, lives will be changed and He will get all the glory. __________________ Love, in the final analysis, is wisdom. --E.W. Kenyon

05-08-2008, 09:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
smellycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: uk Posts: 4,867 Rep Power: 6	i see children taught for 14+ years,where i live i was never taught the bible.i never knew about a spiritual war.i never knew my life depended on my actions.the question is why.? __________________ GOOD BAD SALVATION

05-08-2008, 10:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
smellycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: uk Posts: 4,867 Rep Power: 6	i must have been a day dreamer at school.i thought this place was going to be Good.then after years of corruption i faultered.then i realised why this place is so bad. __________________ GOOD BAD SALVATION

05-08-2008, 10:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
dermasse Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	Ultimate, eternal reality is the spiritual world. The spiritual world consists of a here-to-fore, a war within which every human is a soldier. The problem is that most humans have no idea that the spiritual world exists and of those who acknowledge its existence, few recognize the war. As Bob Dylan sang, you're going to have to serve somebody. It may be the devil, or it may be the Lord, but you're going to have to serve somebody. There is a constant battle and our minds are the battlefield. Satan puts ideas into our minds to battle the Holy Spirit and other Christians. We either listen and follow through with these ideas or we submit to the Holy Spirit and battle against the enemy. That's why Paul said, "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places." (Ephesians 6:12) __________________ Credo Ut Intelligam

05-08-2008, 09:33 PM	#2 (permalink)
Atonement Former Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 80 Rep Power: 0	With respect to that. We are told by Jesus to preach the Gospel. Mar 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

05-08-2008, 09:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Atonement Former Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Albuquerque Posts: 80 Rep Power: 0	I believe because no one ever shared the Good News with you??

05-08-2008, 10:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
smellycat Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: uk Posts: 4,867 Rep Power: 6	why are children not told.? __________________ GOOD BAD SALVATION

05-08-2008, 11:03 PM	#9 (permalink)
dermasse Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 27 Rep Power: 0	I can only assume it is because they either have no spiritual mentors or their spiritual mentors are not aware. My children are very aware of the spiritual world and the battle field of the mind. When she was 8, one of my daughters could see spiritual beings in battle with her physical eyes. I was pastoring a church at the time and was under a constant spiritual attack. She would warn my wife and I when the "dragons" were around. She saw demons as dragons and angels as lions. I could tell stories, but that's a different thread. __________________ Credo Ut Intelligam

05-09-2008, 04:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
PrayerWorrior52 Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Mississippi Posts: 47 Rep Power: 0	I think children are not told of spiritual warfare b/c when they are young. it just seems traditional to teach them loving stories about God. all the Basic "famous'' stories in the Bible.. as they get older, then it seems like teachers start adding parts about Gods wrath and spiritual warfare.. i do not agree with this.. but it seems to be how almost everyone teaches it.. draw in the young with love.. then when they are "old enough" fill them in on the rest b/c they can handle it then. as i said. i do not agree with this. but it seems that way. and likewise in life.. you do not teach your children about war when they are 3 and 4. b/c you want them to be in a loving invironment. you dont feel they are ready to know certain things. then when they get older you start to reveal things to them that you feel they are ready to know. and at the same time as i believe that we should tell younger children about spiritual warfare.. how young is too young??? i mean.. at what age do you really think a child can handle the concept of spiritual warefare... at an age when they are still strugling with the aspecs of Love?? Just a question you know..

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