Agape Love

beforHim · 04-25-2008, 06:07 PM

Tell me if this seems right:

Ecclesiates is the book of the point to life, the purpose of life, the reason for living, etc.
Eccl 12:13- After everything is done and said, The conclusion is this- fear God and keep His commands, for that is the whole duty of man. (paraphrase)

Assuming fearing God means you'll keep His commandments, and the two main commands, Love God with everything, and love your neighboor as yourself, then isn't the whole point of life to love others?
Love encompasses everythingelse (1 Cor 13), and is repeatedly said to fulfill the law, which Jesus Hismelf said He did.

So, is the point of life agape love (since love automatically looks out for everyone's best interests)? Never sin, Always Agape love, Always glorify Him 100%, always do His will- all four of these seem to me to just be saying the same thing- hence if it is most accuratley and most often described as loving others (God and humans [were angels fit in I don't know]), then wouldn't "Agape Love" (which automatically looks out for everyone's best interests) be the point to life?

Ginger · 04-25-2008, 06:22 PM

Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Ro 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen

This is the point of life.

Boanerges · 04-25-2008, 06:31 PM

Here is an interesting study of the differences between Agape and Phileo love:
BIBLE STUDY MANUALS: LOVE, A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE, AGAPE, PHILEO, EROS

beforHim · 04-27-2008, 04:57 AM

Thx Boanerges. That'll come in handy.

Ginger- if a God of self indulgence is all we have, then he's not the Christian God. Is His self indulgence good for us? I guess that argument could be made.

Ginger · 04-27-2008, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beforHim

Ginger- if a God of self indulgence is all we have, then he's not the Christian God. Is His self indulgence good for us? I guess that argument could be made.

It's been good for me. God made me for His own pleasure and it has pleased Him to shower me with His loving kindness, continually bless me with wonderful gifts, help me through the bad times and place a bubble of protection around me and my family.

Besides, He is God. I hardly think I am fit to question His actions or motives!

Ginger

open minded · 04-27-2008, 03:48 PM

Paul places love above faith

1 Corinthians 13:13
But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Ginger · 04-27-2008, 04:08 PM

Amen. We must always start and end in love.

Dusty · 04-27-2008, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger

Amen. We must always start and end in love.

Right, but that does not mean that the others are of lesser value. Faith and hope are just as important.

beforHim · 05-03-2008, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Paul places love above faith

1 Corinthians 13:13
But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.
- - -
Right, but that does not mean that the others are of lesser value. Faith and hope are just as important

I'm asking if, by virtue of my 'mini thesis' in the first post, is agape love the point to life?

Ginger- I can see what you're saying. Makes sense. I now need to think about it more (reading my post I left you, it seemed rude- didn't mean it that way, so sorry).

Boanerges · 05-03-2008, 04:32 AM

Lcve is first because God is love . He created us to walk in love and by faith (absolute dependance on and total submission to the Holy Spirit).

04-25-2008, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
beforHim Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Houston Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Agape Love Tell me if this seems right: Ecclesiates is the book of the point to life, the purpose of life, the reason for living, etc. Eccl 12:13- After everything is done and said, The conclusion is this- fear God and keep His commands, for that is the whole duty of man. (paraphrase) Assuming fearing God means you'll keep His commandments, and the two main commands, Love God with everything, and love your neighboor as yourself, then isn't the whole point of life to love others? Love encompasses everythingelse (1 Cor 13), and is repeatedly said to fulfill the law, which Jesus Hismelf said He did. So, is the point of life agape love (since love automatically looks out for everyone's best interests)? Never sin, Always Agape love, Always glorify Him 100%, always do His will- all four of these seem to me to just be saying the same thing- hence if it is most accuratley and most often described as loving others (God and humans [were angels fit in I don't know]), then wouldn't "Agape Love" (which automatically looks out for everyone's best interests) be the point to life?

04-25-2008, 06:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
Boanerges Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St Rose LA Posts: 14,935 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 16	Here is an interesting study of the differences between Agape and Phileo love: BIBLE STUDY MANUALS: LOVE, A BIBLICAL PERSPECTIVE, AGAPE, PHILEO, EROS __________________ Love, in the final analysis, is wisdom. --E.W. Kenyon

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Boanerges Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: St Rose LA Posts: 14,935 Blog Entries: 3 Rep Power: 16	Lcve is first because God is love . He created us to walk in love and by faith (absolute dependance on and total submission to the Holy Spirit). __________________ Love, in the final analysis, is wisdom. --E.W. Kenyon

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04-25-2008, 06:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ginger Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 139 Rep Power: 1	Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. Ro 11:36 For of him, and through him, and to him, [are] all things: to whom [be] glory for ever. Amen This is the point of life.

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beforHim Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Near Houston Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Thx Boanerges. That'll come in handy. Ginger- if a God of self indulgence is all we have, then he's not the Christian God. Is His self indulgence good for us? I guess that argument could be made.

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open minded Former Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: United States Posts: 33 Rep Power: 0	Paul places love above faith 1 Corinthians 13:13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.

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Ginger Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 139 Rep Power: 1	Amen. We must always start and end in love.