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Old 02-06-2008, 02:00 AM   #11
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Servant, I'm sorry. You did not say that. I just wanted you to know that I came out of Mormonism, so I do know their errors.
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Old 02-06-2008, 02:06 AM   #12
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Have you ever noticed in verse 18 it says, “the prophecy of this book” and in verse 19 it says, “the book of this prophecy”?

That also matches up with two verses in Deuteronomy.

Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of Jehovah your God which I command you.

Deu 12:32 What thing soever I command you, that shall ye observe to do: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

It just seems clear to me that God doesn’t want anyone messing around with His word.
It reminds me of when I was a kid and every once in a while Dad would say those famous words, “because I’m the Dad, and I said so”.
I guess it was WhoAmI who I was talking about. But, now, reading it again, I see the verse he quoted was from the book of Deu., which is in the O.T. This is new and I will share it with Joy. Thanx, WhoAmI!
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Well it is obvious the gospel message is included in that:

Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Just my opinion but what would make anyone think they are smart enough to improve God's Word?
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Pro 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Pro 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
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Deu 4:1 Now therefore hearken, O Israel, unto the statutes and unto the judgments, which I teach you, for to do them, that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers giveth you.
Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
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Oh, Boanerges, thank you for all those verses. I am really going to have to use that Bible Gateway site! They are very convincing that God meant that nothing should be added to or taken away from the Bible. Another thought, though: I know the answer Joy will give if I share these verses. She will say, "anything that Joseph Smith came up with in writing the Bom was ok, because he was a present day prophet and his words are from God anyway, for this day and age."

Sorry to keep at it. But, would you pray for her that something I say will get through to her? At least put a little doubt in her heart about what she so strongly believes? I have to face this every day. But, I don't mind anymore as much, because I know in my heart the truth. Her "knowing the truth" is the "burning in her bosom" that tells her that her church is the only true church. That feeling that is so dangerous.
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I would simply remind here that the scripture predates Mr Smith and delcares that any who bring another gospel is cursed. Does Mr smith fit into the any catagory- of course he does. If God contradicts Himself He will no longer be God but of course He will never do that. Anyone who contradicts His Word is a false prophet plain and simple and is under a curse. Does your friend believe God contradicts Himself. I would ask her this before presenting the scriptures to her.
I will certainly pray for your friend.
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if there is contridiction in text,1 lost in translation,2 satan has changed it through man who has no respect to God Jesus,or the holy spirit,or 3 a misinterpretation by man.
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also i wouls say this 7 books were either added by man or taken away by man.this is truth.
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Just my opinion but what would make anyone think they are smart enough to improve God's Word?
I wonder this myself Larry. The only thing that really makes sense to me is that they are deceived mightily by demonic influences. I mean....some really believe that they know the Truth better than the author of it and it just has to be a the father of all lies convincing them. The only other explanation is very serious mental illness.

Do you think that these type of people can be released or are there those who have given themselves fully over to the demonic influence and then can't be released?

I know people are de-programmed from cults but what of those who are so immersed and indoctrinated that they are completely convinced they are right? Has God turned them over to a depraved mind?
What do you think?



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