Question about the AntiChrist

NearertoGod · 01-16-2008, 03:54 AM

Hi, I have a question about the AntiChrist (or the beast, etc).

I actually have a couple of questions, I think...but I'll try to make it as simple as possible.

Okay, so, I was thinking for a while, what will happen when we (or some people) won't accept the mark? Will they kill us, or just something else? I haven't read Revalation in a while, I need too, lol. Also, will the AntiChrist destroy Bibles/churches (either one, or both)? I kind of think they will remove Bibles and Churches from society, lol...but I'm not exactly sure.

You don't have to answer these questions or not, be as little or as vague as you want - I just want some answers!

In God's Love,
NTG! <3

SweetSurrender · 01-16-2008, 04:08 AM

I have been reading a novel series by Bodie Thoene called Zion Covenant. It is a real eye opener to the Holocaust and what really happened to the Jews before anyone reached out to help them. It was certainly the spirit of the antichrist and of course the presence of places of worship was a threat to the demons who controlled Hitler and his men. That is why they were all destroyed and I would think during the Tribulation, it will be the same way.

I have come to the conclusion in my own heart that it will not be as easy as the Left Behind series portray. We will be afraid to trust anyone if we are left behind. I intend to go up to be with Christ first and don't wish to spend any time in the Tribulation.

Some on this forum have listed sites that were very helpful on the Rapture and the Second Coming. If they don't come on and list it for you, I will find the site and forward it to ya'.

SweetSurrender · 01-16-2008, 04:12 AM

Freedom07 gave me this site that was really helpful. It is rather long, but there are other subjects you can click on in it that will also answer questions.

http://www.albertarose.org/Christian..._explained.htm

NearertoGod · 01-16-2008, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Honeybare

I have been reading a novel series by Bodie Thoene called Zion Covenant. It is a real eye opener to the Holocaust and what really happened to the Jews before anyone reached out to help them. It was certainly the spirit of the antichrist and of course the presence of places of worship was a threat to the demons who controlled Hitler and his men. That is why they were all destroyed and I would think during the Tribulation, it will be the same way.

I have come to the conclusion in my own heart that it will not be as easy as the Left Behind series portray. We will be afraid to trust anyone if we are left behind. I intend to go up to be with Christ first and don't wish to spend any time in the Tribulation.

Some on this forum have listed sites that were very helpful on the Rapture and the Second Coming. If they don't come on and list it for you, I will find the site and forward it to ya'.

Thanks. I haven't really looked up Rapture, AntiChrist, Second Coming, etc on the net, but any good site links are welcome.

I have never read Left Behind, I haven't heard of it until recently when some other Christians mentioned the series to me. I suspect it is going to be hard, it's going to be 10 x's worse than Hitler and all of them. I just had this idea that maybe we are being shown of what is to come...Hitler and his gang are just the beginning, imagine what the AC will be like when he comes!

He must will be very deceiving, because it says in the Bible about false messiahs and prophets, and isn't he supposed to be a false prophet/messiah? I saw an interesting article on Rapture Ready about the AC, etc.

NearertoGod · 01-16-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Honeybare

Freedom07 gave me this site that was really helpful. It is rather long, but there are other subjects you can click on in it that will also answer questions.

http://www.albertarose.org/Christian..._explained.htm

Thank ku!

SweetSurrender · 01-16-2008, 04:15 AM

"Okay, so, I was thinking for a while, what will happen when we (or some people) won't accept the mark? Will they kill us, or just something else?"

We won't need to be killed because we will die of starvation and will not be able to buy or sell if we don't have the mark. Of couse, I am saying this from having watched a movie from the Left Behind series. I, too, have to read up on it, but I'm not sure it is in scripture.

NearertoGod · 01-16-2008, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Honeybare

"Okay, so, I was thinking for a while, what will happen when we (or some people) won't accept the mark? Will they kill us, or just something else?"

We won't need to be killed because we will die of starvation and will not be able to buy or sell if we don't have the mark. Of couse, I am saying this from having watched a movie from the Left Behind series. I, too, have to read up on it, but I'm not sure it is in scripture.

Yeah.

Actually (not against you or anything), I really don't read Christian fiction based of Revelation. I know some people take it as what may happen, but you never know. We may find ways to survive, like escaping to the wilderness, etc etc, but since we can't see the future, you never really know. Of course Revelation explains what will happen, but not really how some may find ways to survive (but God will surely be with us!).

Who knows?
The AC may rise tomorrow, this minute, even after you take a breath or start your car.

Kevin · 01-16-2008, 06:50 AM

NearertoGod,

I suggest that you really study the book of revelation keeping in mind that there are numerous different understandings about the end times. The internet is a mine feild of information especially about revelation because this is where the cults love to recruit new members.

There are theories about Pre-trib, mid-trib and post-trib. There are theories that revelation already happened to the early church, there are theories that it is partially complete and there are theories that it is still going to unravel and there are theories that it will never happen, that we must learn from the moral issues in the book.

Dr David Pawson has got excellent material on Revelation where he goes through all the different theories showing the pro's and con's for each theory with scripture.

Keep this in mind when reading revelation:

1> Jesus has already defeated evil
2> Revelation is Gods plan, not satan's
3> God is completely in control
4> We can trust in Gods promises
5> Revelation must be in context with the rest of the Bible.
6> Pray often and use reliable sources for your research.
7> The great commision is just as important as the events in revelation.

I pray God leads you and guides you through this exiciting book.

NearertoGod · 01-16-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin

NearertoGod,

I suggest that you really study the book of revelation keeping in mind that there are numerous different understandings about the end times. The internet is a mine feild of information especially about revelation because this is where the cults love to recruit new members.

There are theories about Pre-trib, mid-trib and post-trib. There are theories that revelation already happened to the early church, there are theories that it is partially complete and there are theories that it is still going to unravel and there are theories that it will never happen, that we must learn from the moral issues in the book.

Dr David Pawson has got excellent material on Revelation where he goes through all the different theories showing the pro's and con's for each theory with scripture.

Keep this in mind when reading revelation:

1> Jesus has already defeated evil
2> Revelation is Gods plan, not satan's
3> God is completely in control
4> We can trust in Gods promises
5> Revelation must be in context with the rest of the Bible.
6> Pray often and use reliable sources for your research.
7> The great commision is just as important as the events in revelation.

I pray God leads you and guides you through this exiciting book.

Thanks, Kevin.

Yes, I've looked up most everything I can look up on Revelation, Apocalypse, etc.

I don't believe in pre-, post-, or mid- Tribulation, whatever it really means, lol, nothing against anyone, just confuses me even more! o_0

I have to look again. I've been reading other books like Matthew, Mark, John, etc. and not Revelation like usual.

Whirlwind · 01-16-2008, 02:07 PM

Scary thing is, when the Anti-christ comes, He's going to be a deceiver like we've never seen...solving problems and trying to earn his followers. He'll make the poor rich, perform magic that many men have never seen before, and he's going to be good at talking.

I think some Christians might even start following him before they even realize who he is.

He's going to be a best friend who seems to have all of your worries and problems constantly on his mind, no matter how small they are.

Keep your eyes open.

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