Boanerges

From John Gills expostion of the entire bible:
Mat 16:28 - Verily I say unto you..... This is a strong asseveration, Christ puts his "Amen" to it; declaring it to be a certain truth, which may firmly be believed:
there be some standing here; meaning either his disciples, or some of the audience; for it is clear from Mar_8:34 that the people were called unto him with his disciples, when he said these words:
which shall not taste of death: that is, shall not die; a phrase frequently used by the Jewish doctors: they say (y),
"All the children of the world, טעמין טעמא דמותא, "taste the taste of death".''
That is, die:
till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom; which is not to be understood of his personal coming in his kingdom in the last day, when he will judge quick and dead; for it cannot be thought, that any then present should live to that time, but all tasted of death long before, as they have done; for the story of John's being alive, and to live till then, is fabulous, and grounded on a mistake which John himself has rectified at the close of his Gospel: nor of the glorious transfiguration of Christ, the account of which immediately follows; when he was seen by Peter, James, and John, persons now present; for that, at most, was but an emblem and a pledge of his future glory: rather, of the appearance of his kingdom, in greater glory and power, upon his resurrection from the dead, and his ascension to heaven; when the Spirit was poured down in an extraordinary manner, and the Gospel was preached all over the world; was confirmed by signs and wonders, and made effectual to the conversion and salvation of many souls; which many then present lived to see, and were concerned in: though it seems chiefly to have regard to his coming, to show his regal power and authority in the destruction of the Jews; when those his enemies that would not he should reign over them, were ordered to be brought and slain before him; and this the Apostle John, for one, lived to be a witness of.

vinyamar777

I guess U refer to Mt.16:28. The // vv R Mk.9:1 & Lk.9:27. He was speaking to his disciples. They had just had their thoughts about his messiahship confirmed, when he introduce the abominable idea of messiah being crucified and was rebuked by Peter. In this context he both challenged them to hold fast to him, and confirmed that the messianic reign was just around the corner, following on the heels of the cross.


In their lifetime they were to enter this reign, this inaugurated kingdom of God, though it would not align with their previous expectations of a sovereign ethnic race with the gentiles bowing down. After the resurrection this son of man (aka barnasa) entered into this new phase of salvation, and all except Judas had not ‘tasted death’. Soon the Spirit empowered this reign.

Consequent to this will be a time when messiah returns and a different group will not in normal understanding ‘taste death’, although that was not the group Jesus spoke of in this context. At this still to be point, the kingdom reign will enter a new & eternal phase – hence the expression inaugurated eschatology, ie a process of future events beginning with messiah’s birth, like the planting of a seed that will flower when the king of the kingdom returns.

Boanerges

How about a book, chapter and verse for that one?

I believe that Jesus was refering to the outpouring of hte Holy Spirit to establish His kingdom on earth and to the catching away of His bride.

smellycat

so do demons etc die if they saw Jesus 2000 years ago?doesn,t it say in genesis you will live of the dust of the earth.could this mean souls of men,women.swapping from 1 to another etc.how do you figure.?

Boanerges

Demons don't experience death - they have no mortal body to die but they will exeriemce eternal torment. Some are bound awaiting release and judgement:


Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: