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01-08-2008, 03:45 PM
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This is something that I wondered from time to time, too.
Like the question that I posted about Pharaoh...was he actually doing good in the eyes of God? Because God Himself was hardening the heart of Pharaoh so that God's will would eventually be done. Like with Judas. The Son of Man had to be sacrificed. That was God's will...the cup could not pass from Jesus. God knew what was going to happen before it had happened. So Judas had no other choice but to betray the Son of Man. It had to take place for all of the other events to fall into line. What would have happened to Jesus that night if Judas had resisted...if he had not betrayed the Son of Man with a kiss? Jesus knew from the beginning that Judas would betray Him. Would it be sinful for Judas to NOT betray his Master? "It would be better for that man to not have been born at all." So was Judas destined to sin no matter which way he went? Betray the Son of Man and sin. Resist doing what must take place - go against the Will of God - and sin. A no win situation? As for Cain...didn't he already suffer his punishment? He received a mark on his body and was cast out. Was that his punishment? Was it over then? Had he paid the price then for murdering? Sorry - I feel like I'm adding more wax to the boiling pot. But these questions come up and itch in places where I can't reach them alone.  |
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01-08-2008, 04:07 PM
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I never really thought much about it.
But now it makes me wonder, Cain was before the law of Abraham. And what about Adam and Eve? Did Got just punish them for their sins and that was the end of it? They didn't really no how to repent back then. |
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01-08-2008, 04:27 PM
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Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
Rom 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. Rom 9:16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. Rom 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth. Rom 9:18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. Rom 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Rom 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? Rom 9:22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: |
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01-08-2008, 06:13 PM
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For da-man,
Your question about what happened before the law is answered in Hebrews 11. It said that those before the law were saved from their sins the same way those in the Christian era are... ...by faith in the one true God. Also, Romans 1 gives us an interesting angle regarding those evil who existed before the law. It said that some denied Him. How? By rejecting what they knew in their conscience and saw in creation (Romans 1:18-20.) I deal with a similar subject on my website... www.bible-student-online.org Hope this helps. Last edited by Billy-Bible; 01-08-2008 at 06:37 PM. |
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