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Old 12-09-2005, 09:24 PM   #1
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Default Deception within the church

Wisdom is better than weapons: but one sinner destroys much good(Ecclesiastes 9:18)
The word of God makes it clear that not everything preached within the walls of the church are truth. This may sound very disturbing. Jesus warned His disciples 13 times in the Gospels to be aware of leaders within the Church
Mat 7:15; 16:6,11; 24:4,24;
Mark 4:24; 8:15; 12:38-40; 13:5
Luke 12:1; 17:23; 20:46; 21:8

These last days are marked by current ever-increasing wickedness in the world, an almost total collapse of morality and increase of false believers and ministers within the church.

"Beloved, belive not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world." -1 John 4:1

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Old 12-12-2005, 05:01 PM   #2
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Yes, test the spirits. Do they draw you toward Jesus? or toward themselves?

God is good.

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Default Thats right, test the spirit

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1

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Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God; because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
1 John 4:1

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Yes, we're told to try the spirits because not all of them are of God.
If a spirit is telling you something that is not backed up in the Word then it is a false spirit.
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Yes, we're told to try the spirits because not all of them are of God.
If a spirit is telling you something that is not backed up in the Word then it is a false spirit.
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Yes, I so much agree...

I know that one of the lies in this Church age is you must speaks in Tongues to be saved or a sign of salvation...

If this post in inflammatory you can delete it, Jeff

I know there are some strong opinions on both sides of the camp...


I've studied Tongues in Scripture, and am convinced there is much confusion of this topic...

But I also witness that some people who speak in tongues are cold, un-loving, distant, rude, and even blasphemise...

While those that don't are opposite...

BTW I speak in tongues so I know it is a true gift...

I believe you shall know them by their fruits , not by their tongues...
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Using God as a slot machine is one of the biggest lies in the church today. Someone actually told me " I gave now God owes me, I want my money. AAAARRRRHHHHH-
Mat 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Mat 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Mat 6:21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
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How about churches who speak the Truth but only half of it?
This is what I have trouble with~
Lacking in Truth; withholding Truth is the same as a falsehood, isn't it?

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Or this one..."if you are suffering, or in trials, you are out of Gods will, or there must be sin in your life".


What about poor Job? Peter? Thomas? Timothy?
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Some may withold- some may not that light to share- God knows the difference. To whom much is given much is required, if flip that coin to whom less is given less is required.
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