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Old 01-05-2008, 10:31 PM   #7
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Maybe a further explanation is in order. Let's study 1 Samuel 2:25.

(NASB) 1Sa 2:25 "If one man sins against another, God will mediate for him; but if a man sins against the LORD, who can intercede for him?" But they would not listen to the voice of their father, for the LORD desired to put them to death.

I have bolded the phrase to look at. This is Eli speaking to his two sons about their sins. Scriptures states that the sons did not listen or heed their fathers words because the Lord desired to put them to death. This means to me that the sons had no choice but to ignore their fathers words and repent because of the will of God. So the question that comes to my mind is when do we loose the ability to choose to repent?

The same for the Psalm 105:25 verse
Psa 105:25He turned their heart to hate His people, To deal craftily with His servants.

This is about the Egyptians in Exodus. Here it states that God turned the Egyptians heard to hate the Isrealites and to deal with them "craftily". In Exodus, Scripture states that the reason the Pharoah would not let the Israelites go is because God made the Pharaoh's heart hard (stubborn). Same question hits me here. If God hardened his heart, he obiviously lost his ability to choose.

I agree with Freedom07, God does choose us first, but we have to choose to recieve Him also as stated, free will. Then I agree with Violet about the unpardonable sin (Matthew 12:31).

As JehovahNissi correctly quoted that scripture states we have choice.

And Vinyamar77 I again agree with when stated "Eli’s warning was blocked by Yahweh who saw they were too evil to genuinely repent.".

Putting all this together, Is there is a point prior to death where God decides to prevent people from listening to the message of salvation? Thereby withdrawing the gift of Grace, because he knows that the person will never repent.

Taking Eli's sons again as example: We can assume that God created them and they were given the same choice for life or death, blessing or curse. Throughout their lives they kept choosing curse, as we all have done prior to being saved. But at some point, God took away their ability of Free will to choose, because he desired to put them to death. I am just curious on your thoughts on this.
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