12-24-2007, 07:36 PM
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Ken, I see your "copy and paste" works fine.
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Originally Posted by epistemaniac
exactly boanerges... and using the principle that scripture needs to interpret scripture, Luke (1:`17) gives us more detail, in that John the Baptist came in the spirit of Elijah. Further, if anyone ought to know if John the Baptist were Elijah reincarnated, it ought to be John the Baptist himself right?!?!?! But he very plainly denies that he is Elijah:
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Originally Posted by epistemaniac
Joh 1:21 NASB And they asked him, "What then? Are you Elijah?" And he said, "I am not." "Are you the Prophet?" And he answered, "No.""
blessings,
Ken
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Of coarse John said "No". Memory doesn't stay with new "reincarnation". Why did you assume that memory stays with new "reincarnation"? Only Lord knows who is who!
Or you think Elijah knew better then Jesus?
Matthew 11
14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elijah, who was to come.
But maybe the following will open your eyes, Ken. Please compare the description of how they both looked:
Elijia description in 2 Kings 1:8
8 So they answered him, “A hairy man wearing a leather belt around his waist.” And he said, “It is Elijah the Tishbite.”
John description in Matthew 3:4
4 Now John himself was clothed in camel’s hair, with a leather belt around his waist; and his food was locusts and wild honey.
Is it another Bible "coincedence"? Does the way they dressed only prove that one came in "spirit and strength"? Or is it another proof that Elija's soul and John's soul is the same?
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Originally Posted by Boanerges
Ken that is absolutely right and there is only one other option- that being this scripture is error and thereby bringing into question the validity of the entire New Testament:
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Originally Posted by Boanerges
Heb 9:25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;
Heb 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment.
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Nobody argues that the man is destined to die once. But the soul lives forever. I hope you know that fact. At least the soul of the believer.
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Originally Posted by Boanerges
Brother thanks for your concern but after having studied this it is plain to see that my understanding follows a strict translation of the original text, if following the orignal text in it's proper meanign is dangerpous than I am guilty as charged.. Your accusation of scripture twisting and mistranslation simply will not stan up to a close scrutiny of the text. A little KNOWLEDGE can be a dangerous thing- selah.
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OK, Boanerges , let's have it your way. Please tell me how Matthew 11:14 sounds in the original text. Because all translations that I looked up it says THIS IS ELIJAH, nowhere I could find your word THIS IS SIMILAR TO ELIJAH. Or you are telling us that your abilites to translate is better than everybody's else? Please give me the original text that you read of Mat 11:14 and we will translate it. And then I will prove that you are playing dangerous game and adding words to Jesus.
Merry Christmas everyone!!!
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