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Bondman · 08-11-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by worshipper

Bondman;
Here is something for discussion speaking of prayer (especially PPP) I have asked I have asked my husband to pray with me again (married almost 10 yrs in Jan.) for these ministry concerns and he says that there is NO need to pray that God gives us our needs are provided for according to His will. But it does not say NOT to pray! Then he sly said he will pray with me "when he feels LEAD"...

Matthew 6:8
Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.
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If we feel insufficient (as my husband seems to act) or do not know what to pray (many times we all must ask for wisdom) God has sent us a Helper. Hallelujah...We do not need to be a 'prayer warrior' to speak with him and share our heart with our Lord. We should go humbly before the Throne of Grace and since the Word of God does not specifically command husbands to pray WITH their wives, he does not seem to think that it is necessary or even good even though I ask it of him.

Sorry I've been extra sick for a day or two.

A. Fluffy's response to this heart-cry was great! I know it's hard, worshipper! I know of a situation where it's exactly the reverse: the wife won't fit in with the husband who is right on the ball. *sad* Getting to a place of 'agreement' can be hard. That's why for a long time I've loved the verse in Eph 5 coming directly BEFORE the major passages to husbands and wives! Let me quote the verse before it as well:

Ephesians 5:20 Giving thanks always for all things to God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;
21 Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God.

If we took notice of v. 21 FIRST - before getting into the husband and wife things, it could help a pile in my view. What's His Word commanding us to do here: 1) Give thanks to God IN ALL THINGS (that's 'all' as in 'ALL'!!!), THEN 2) Submit to each in IN THE FEAR OF GOD!! Wouldn't doing THEM that sort a lot of problems?

The other thing that struck me as I read of your situation was the wonder of the amazing gift God gave to all men - FREEWILL! We are all free agents. NOt EVEN GOD WILL OVER-RIDE OUR FREEWILL! In turn we must never attempt to over-ride someone else's. Yes, we can pray, that's the ticket!

B. May I share something that's helped me a lot on this. Maybe as long as 30 years ago I developed this simple but powerful thought that I needed to live, or at least to attempt to work towards living out in my Christian walk with Jesus:

EXPECTATION 0%. ACCEPTANCE 100%

Now I don't think that is possible this side of heaven, but think about it. Do we not place EXPECTATIONS on others all the time (despite all that I know, I have just earlier this year! *shamed*) Do we not FAIL to ACCEPT others - just as they are!! NOTE: God does!!! True, He loves us so much that He's NOT EVER content to leave us there without aiming to help us do better, but His expectation and acceptance of you and me are 0% and 100%!

PROBLEM: we're always trying to FIX/CHANGE the other person. Stop it! It's not right. We're to love and accept, not fix!! Wouldn't you agree that we got a BIG enough (FULL-TIME) problem fixing ourselves up without trying to fix up him or her!! I know I have - and I stress FULL-TIME there!

Bless you so much, worshipper, for your responses to what others have written! May I really encourage you even as I pray for you (and hubby), that along with us all you will live the Lord's way more and more with every passing day!

With love,

- BM