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Old 04-22-2008, 10:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default who did christ die for ? pt 2

There is a world [kosmos] of people Jesus shall save jn 3:
17For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might[shall be] be saved.
There is also a world[kosmos] that shall be condemed. 1 cor 11:
32But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
There are two distinct purposes to those designated the world, you have the world of Jacobs, and the world of easus..
rom 9:
11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth

12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. 13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
Those of us who are of the purpose of God according to election, those He Loves, but of those who are of the purpose of perdition, those He hates..
So we must remeber that Gods world of election is distinct from satans world of reprobation..
Yes God has decreed that satan has his world, a world of the ungodly..2 pet 2:
5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
where also he [satan] is termed the prince of this world
jn 12:
31Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
jn 14:

30Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
jn 16:
11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
So the prince and his world of ungodly seed, is Judged and condemed..
The word prince is archon and means= a ruler, commander, chief, leader
This means he rules and governs a world, the seed of satan, in fact, by nature, we too [ the elect] were part of this world, but because of election, and the redemptive blood of christ, we are translated from his dark kingdom into that of our election and blessedness..
col 1:

12Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light: 13Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
The elect, have not ourselves to thank, not our wise decsion, not our freewill as it were, but the power of God, which has made us meet, delivering us, rescuing us, from the power and world of darkness, where satan is ruler and god..
The world of the election of grace is saved from satans world of darkness..
Quickly a word on the high priest caiaphas, whom God used or inspired to make the prediction in jn 11, for no where conclusively is he said to be a believer, which means God in His sovereignty does and can use anyone, elect or non elect, to inspire truth from..
Many today in these days of apostacy, God has used to speak forth truth of the word of God, for the sake of His elect, so by no means are we to conclude that those who God uses to show forth some truth of His, by no means should we conclude them a vessel of honor. If you hear everything what they believe, you will come to the conclusion, that everything they believe is not of Gods inspired word..
Lets look again at the prediction in jn 11 vs 52
52And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
Lets see the similarity in this verse and one chapter back in jn 10:
15-16 where Jesus is speaking to ethnic jews:
15As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. [ of national Isreal]
16And other sheep[ not of national israel I have, which are not of this fold[ national israel]: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
Ladies and Gentlemen, this passage is Identical to jn 11: 50-53..
also it is Identicle to 1 jn 2 2
2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
The focus of the redemptive purposes of God, no longer centers in the sheep of that national people, but now expands the national boundries to include, sheep from all nations of the world, as now the grater fulfillment of the abrahamic coveanant is being realized..
gen 17:
5Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
gen 18:
Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
abrahams blessings had world wide implications outside of palastine..
rom 4:
13For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
In other words, abraham becoming the Father of many nations was not condition on him, but was a promise given[ or revealed] to him unconditionally through Faith.
God gives faith to the elect so we can understand to a certain degree, the things that are freely given to us of God..
1 cor 2:
12Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
Abraham had been given the same spirit of God, in newbirth..
But getting back on subject, yes the mentioning now of the world, or whole world, is the switching of the salvaic purposeses from one central nation now to the broader scope of the world, in pursuit of the fulfillment of the abrahamic covenant that all the nations of the world would be blessed..
gal 3:
8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
And Jesus christ coming into the world, was for primarily in pursuit of this purpose of God..
Jn 3 16 ; jn 1 29; 1jn 4:
9In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him.
10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.
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